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Old 03-29-2014, 05:31 PM
 
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A 4th grade kid is assigned a creative science project where you need to a theme, hypothesis, procedure, observations, results

Conclusion and recommendation.

This was the kid's science project of choice ...under "Social Science"

Theme
1) Title: to commit first degree murder or not to commit first degree murder, that is the question.
Question: is it good or bad?

Research:
2a) bad case:Then he researched notorious criminals like the DC sniper

2b) potentially good case: researched necessary killings like the Japan Hiroshima atomic bomb dropping, it is potentially murder under a different sovereign nation or international community's terminology (I.e. The atrocities under Nazi authorities were not "murders" under the Nazi legal system but were murderous crimes against humanity outside that realm

Hence 2b justifies that legal killing and murder and potential murder are all non-distinguishable

Hypothesis:
3) Killing can be necessary to save other life such as killing people who smoke cigarettes to reduce second hand smoke

Procedure:
4) Go out, use dad's fire arm, then shoot and kill random tobacco smokers

Observations:
5a) Tobacco smokers died before their cigarette butt ran out

5b) Got arrested by cops

5c) Lots of emotionally distraught people and lots of domestic angst

Results: disliked by everyone including my own classmates ((( even their daddy smoked sometimes (((

Conclusion: killing and murder is nothing but bad

Recommendation: all read my science fAir project on theme of social sciences and please never do what I did (((
Do NOT redo this science project !!!!

What grade would you give this kid's science project?

Last edited by EricS39; 03-29-2014 at 05:42 PM..

 
Old 03-29-2014, 05:37 PM
 
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I...don't understand.
 
Old 03-29-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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I don't believe a word of it actually happened...and what is the point?
 
Old 03-29-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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This is a fictitious story but it's a question of morality versus actual adherence to scientific method in how we should grade our kids
 
Old 03-29-2014, 05:48 PM
 
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Does the project deserve an A or should the moral judgment compromise kudos for scientific processes to find solutions to questions? The kid did effectively apply scientific reasoning to learn his life lesson.
 
Old 03-29-2014, 05:49 PM
 
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It makes no sense. I'm not playing your game. Bye.
 
Old 03-29-2014, 05:50 PM
 
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I'm sure that if it's fictitious, it isn't a science project.

Not sure at all what the rest of your post is about.
 
Old 03-29-2014, 05:56 PM
 
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Originally Posted by EricS39 View Post
This is a fictitious story but it's a question of morality versus actual adherence to scientific method in how we should grade our kids
No, it's a silly attempt to cast anything scientific as immoral by using a fictitious extreme story while trying to cast it as normal with science.

Just like if I cast all Christianity as immoral by adhering to the Bible literally in stoning unruly children in the old testament.

It's dishonest in both cases, and the person doing so should be ashamed of themselves because it is not moral.
 
Old 03-29-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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no, it's a silly attempt to cast anything scientific as immoral by using a fictitious extreme story while trying to cast it as normal with science.
a!
 
Old 03-29-2014, 06:58 PM
 
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F and a couple months of mental health service
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