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Old 03-29-2014, 11:03 PM
YAZ
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948 View Post
why would i lament violent people being denied guns.????
the issue of 2nd amendment people is that you need to stop attempting to disarm homeowners and doing it at taxpayer expense.
They do it all of the time, Huck.


I don't own a gun, and YOU shouldn't either.


 
Old 03-29-2014, 11:06 PM
YAZ
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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Originally Posted by texdav View Post
I have no problem with banning convicted people. In fact I think they need to get serious about senetences for felons in possession.
And they shouldn't be able to vote either.


Ain't gonna stop the thugs from obtaining firearms illegally.

Feel good legislation that helps no one.
 
Old 03-30-2014, 12:58 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I know a guy that was upset about his wife leaving him. She successfully obtained a restraining order against him. The day he was served those papers he went to her job, jumped over the counter and killed her at point blank range. While tragic, I truly believe that he would have harmed her with ANY weapon he could have found at that point. Not having access to a gun would not have saved her life.

It's an unfair connection to equate ALL gun owners as being violent or all of those without guns as non-violent. They don't necessarily go hand-in-hand either way.
 
Old 03-30-2014, 01:19 AM
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People can be convicted for illegal firearms even when there isn't enough evidence to convict them of their other crimes such as being a hit man for a gang or killing border patrol agents to expedite international commerce. Then, while they're incarcerated for firearms violations, the other evidence can be developed by ongoing investigations that might take years. So they should spend years in jail for firearms violations.

So it's not just feel good legislation. Being in possession of firearms after being convicted of a felony should be considered an extremely serious crime which should result in a very long prison sentence.
 
Old 03-30-2014, 01:22 AM
eok
 
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Another weapon than a gun could have been used to kill her just as dead. But, the key issue, is that the other weapon would take more time to use effectively. By the time it's used, she and/or her associates could put up some kind of defense.

Adam Lanza, without guns, could have broken in to Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, CT, and killed some kids. But not nearly as many. And maybe none, depending on luck. With his guns, the odds were that he would kill lots of them. It was luck that he only killed 20. Without guns, the same amount of luck might have resulted in him not succeeding in killing any.
 
Old 03-30-2014, 01:25 AM
 
Location: M*I*A*M*I
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i don't understand the "logic" of collectivists?

you can't ban drugs because people will get ahold of them anyway.

but somehow banning firearms will work?
 
Old 03-30-2014, 01:25 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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So it's not just feel good legislation. Being in possession of firearms after being convicted of a felony should be considered an extremely serious crime which should result in a very long prison sentence.
I thought possession of firearms was illegal for ALL felons. I was just looking for information on that because I started to write that in my original response and wanted to check the laws before posting about it. It seems like a "given" but who knows.
 
Old 03-30-2014, 07:51 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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I thought Nugent was famously a bow hunter.

He's both. He just likes to kill.

In all fairness, I don't think he's representative of all gun owners.
 
Old 03-30-2014, 08:09 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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I'm a gun owner and a holder of a concealed handgun permit and I agree with the courts decision. I also have a particular dislike of men that abuse women and anyone that abuses animals.
What about women that abuse men? I am assuming that you have a particular dislike for them as well, correct?
 
Old 03-30-2014, 08:14 AM
 
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there are three point in christy post

1) government banning guns away from criminal ( i agree)
2) she hates guns
3) she a liberal preaching the liberal mindset
4) she against freedom and hates uncle ted for his freedom
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