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In 1960 Nigeria was as well off as Singapore. Now there is no comparison, given the extreme destitution faced by its population. This while Singapore has become a DEVELOPED nation.
So while you ponder why black Americans lag in the USA, ask yourself why Africa seriously lags the rest of the world.
The way I see it, both groups have problems, and the notion that either one thinks that they are better than the other is a serious joke!
In 1960 Nigeria was as well off as Singapore. Now there is no comparison, given the extreme destitution faced by its population. This while Singapore has become a DEVELOPED nation.
So while you ponder why black Americans lag in the USA, ask yourself why Africa seriously lags the rest of the world.
The way I see it, both groups have problems, and the notion that either one thinks that they are better than the other is a serious joke!
You brought up a nasty point there and, I hate to say this but you're right. Tho I never knew that Nigeria was as good as Singapore some 50 years ago. I just hope no 1 says you're a storm front fan by saying that many Black people in Africa AND the US are falling down on the job.
In 1960 Nigeria was as well off as Singapore. Now there is no comparison, given the extreme destitution faced by its population. This while Singapore has become a DEVELOPED nation.
So while you ponder why black Americans lag in the USA, ask yourself why Africa seriously lags the rest of the world.
The way I see it, both groups have problems, and the notion that either one thinks that they are better than the other is a serious joke!
I have no problem admitting Africa is an abject failure but that's not the topic of the thread. I've started threads on the Africa forum that were highly critical of African governance. So much so I received infractions for my trouble.
It all comes down to who has the money and power and where do they make direct investments. Singapore, as smallish city-state country, like Hong Kong grew as a result of Investment from the West....DIRECT INVESTMENT....not compound interest loans to government on preconditions.
Economics is about money and confidence. Imperialism and Colonialism, through militarism, allowed the west to secure most of the worlds wealth. Thus, the only way that those not part of the west can rise is if the West invest some of that money in those nations. The West does not invest in black peoples, whether it be in Africa, the Carri bean or the United States. Why? They have no confidence in black peoples, as a whole. Economics is dependent upon confidence and the money goes where investors are confident in the peoples.
My brother and I were the first people in the history of our family to get a college degree, as we were poor. My mother does not even have a high school diploma. I had a 34 on my ACT and my brother had a 35. We were not given any special consideration for being from a lower socio-economic class and had to work in college/med school and take out loans.
I found it very interesting that ALL of the minority students in the EOP (affirmative action) program at my med school were from VERY WELL TO DO backgrounds, had far worse grades and MCAT scores, yet went to med school FREE! That melanin can come in pretty handy from time to time, it seems.
Is it time to stop affirmative action? Yes- if one was to offer support to anyone, it should be based on academic credentials, income, and not race or ethnicity.
Well evidently it didn't hurt you since you actually did become a doctor. Also, I remember you writing that you received federal funding for a portion of your medical training, many doctors receive government sponsored residency training. Also, in regards to the bold, you must not have looked.
I didn't have great high school counselors (and I am the child of a teen dropout, welfare mom) and I got scholarships when I went to college. I dropped out of college and went back in 2006 with no assistance at all and got over $30K worth of scholarships that paid for my entire last two years because I went out and researched every single grant or scholarship that I could get (and FWIW, they were not race based! I actually did get a UNCF scholarship but it was attached to my "institution" so any one of any race could have received it. They said I wrote the best essay they have ever read and I got $10K from them for an essay contest lol).
There are a TON of scholarships available now for low income people and many top colleges, especially Ivies and top 25 colleges have socioeconomic scholarship programs.
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Originally Posted by alaskaboy
Well, let us just HOPE the black community supports and perhaps idolizes this guy. Cause if history repeats itself they will label him some type of trader, in with the "man" and all the other nonsense that comes along anytime a black person is successful outside of sports or entertainment. And it's not just him, but his entire family and the way they raised him. Should be an example for the rest of black America, but something tells me it won't be.
Silliness right here. I first heard of this boy on Facebook and outside of my few family members, I don't have any African FB friends (and my family wasn't the one who posted it). Black people repeatedly seek to highlight and admire black people who do positive things, and especially children who excel academically.
Odd that you all are so gung ho about this kid. He got an exceptional SAT score so of course he would qualify for the Ivies. I have seen numerous stories of black kids who get excellent test scores or who go to or graduate college at 11 or 12 or 15 years old. There was the story of the little girl who became the youngest MENSA member at 3 or 4 years old about a year ago. She was not the child of African immigrants either.
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Originally Posted by caribdoll
The Ghanaian and greater African community supports this and produces successes all the time. You need more exposure, as you lack exposure to the type of culture from which he comes.
You brought up a nasty point there and, I hate to say this but you're right. Tho I never knew that Nigeria was as good as Singapore some 50 years ago. I just hope no 1 says you're a storm front fan by saying that many Black people in Africa AND the US are falling down on the job.
Singapore was a very poor country, actually it was part of Malaya. Black Americans and Nigerians both have problems.
What strawman act are you playing? Are you another one who watches too much Fox and so doesn't know that black people spend a lot of time analyzing and debating problems faced by their communities? Africa, the Caribbean and Black America. What we don't like are white racists who exaggerate these problems as an excuse to discriminate.
I have no problem admitting Africa is an abject failure but that's not the topic of the thread. I've started threads on the Africa forum that were highly critical of African governance. So much so I received infractions for my trouble.
When you make comments about black Americans you do so from a lofty high. Given that Africans have their own problems, why so much energy from you about the poorest 30% of black America, implying that some how Africans are better?
No both groups have their issues and dysfunctionalities, as do Caribbean blacks for that matter.
It. Why? They have no confidence in black peoples, as a whole. Economics is dependent upon confidence and the money goes where investors are confident in the peoples.
I don't know how much word history you know but the whole system of colonialism of the Caribbean and most of sub Saharan Africa was based on investment from the West. And indeed Nigeria has always been and continues to be beneficiary of it. Don't know if you know the scandal of Western oil companies poisoning rivers in the Delta region of Nigeria, killing the fish in communities highly dependent on such as food.
Nigeria as other problems, but a lack of investment from European and North American companies isn't the issue. With almost 1/4 of sub Saharan Africa's population, it is a huge market.
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