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Old 04-02-2014, 06:43 PM
 
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Thanks for reaffirming my post. You're good!

--now take what you just said to heart... the... climate... is... cyclical... now repeat 100 times.

I equate "static climaters" with flat earthers.
I'm not reaffirming your post at all.

You are clinging to anything you can. The Earth cycles take a minimum of roughly 20,000 years. NOT 150 YEARS!

CO2 shot up in the last 50 years. It should take... a good 200-400 times as long as that. What is your explanation for that?

I equate climate deniers to...

 
Old 04-02-2014, 06:47 PM
 
Location: OKC
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"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H. L. Mencken

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel

Eco Statism in action

Please tell use about how DDT was so bad, and after its ban more then 60,000,000 died of diseases that could have been prevented, only to be letter proven that DDT was not making egg shells of birds softer.
...and then let us debate GMO's some more, as people in squalid huts continue to starve.
 
Old 04-02-2014, 06:50 PM
 
Location: OKC
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CO2 shot up in the last 50 years. It should take... a good 200-400 times as long as that. What is your explanation for that?

I equate climate deniers to...
I don't think many people deny there is more CO2 in the air in the last 50 years.

But you know, the popularity of rock music as increased in the last 50 years to but that doesn't prove causation.
 
Old 04-02-2014, 06:50 PM
 
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We have had previous climate cycles;so just that proves nothing at all. Now days its like so many things following the funding /money. before saying it proven true as to cause.
 
Old 04-02-2014, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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...and then let us debate GMO's some more, as people in squalid huts continue to starve.
Nice strawman, furthermore you are aware the Eco Statists oppress GMO`s right?, I oppress GMO but do favor select bred crops.
 
Old 04-02-2014, 06:54 PM
 
Location: OKC
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Nice strawman, furthermore you are aware the Eco Statists oppress GMO`s right?, I oppress GMO but do favor select bred crops.
Sorry, I meant that in support of your post. I find the science on GMO's safety convincing, and the activism against it much more in line with the DDT example in your post.
 
Old 04-02-2014, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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No, because we are basically accelerating the death of our own species.

Tragedy of the Commons. We are willingly changing the Earth and all of its life because we are too ignorant and greedy to give a damn.
I think it is mostly a US thing...They believe all sorts of nonsense, but only when it suits them....Remember that 46% of people in the US reject evolution in favor of creation....Lots of anti science, anti government and conspiracy folks live in the US as well....Obviously they are not that anti science when it comes to using the internet though....

When push comes to shove the deniers are on the same space ship earth as the rest of us, and their fate will be the same as everyone's.
 
Old 04-02-2014, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I don't think many people deny there is more CO2 in the air in the last 50 years.

But you know, the popularity of rock music as increased in the last 50 years to but that doesn't prove causation.
Do you not know how atmospheric CO2 promotes warming?
 
Old 04-02-2014, 07:07 PM
 
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That's not relevant in this thread.





I don't have time to spoon feed you chemistry. The graph correlating CO2 and warming was already provided. If you have an issue with it, you are free to provide counter evidence. Good luck.



Your entire explanation was disproven in graph #3.

And no, I do not want to learn a secret of how hot the Earth can get because of your ignorance. Conservatives will not be allowed to threaten humanity because they are scared of change. The Earth will change with or without you.
Look ... put your big boy pants on, and save the pretty graph pictures for science class show and tell.

What I told you is accurate, and documented, and undeniable. Climate data shows that atmospheric CO2 levels rise in response to warming .. and roughly 800 years later. This relationship has never worked the other way around. NEVER!!

Aside that, all the rest of this debate is absolute madness, since 96.5% of the greenhouse gas is water vapor. You want to eliminate water next? How about oxygen? What else would you like to eliminate?

And by the way, this is not a conservative versus liberal debate ... this is common sense versus stupidity debate ... uhhhh ... well I guess that does make it a conservative versus liberal issue after all! ROTFLMAO.
 
Old 04-02-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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Do you not know how atmospheric CO2 promotes warming?
He couldn't possibly know that, since it does not, and never has.

Do you not know how cause promotes effect? And how cause generally comes first?
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