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If this isn't a hate crime I couldn't imagine what one would be.
Maybe there's something wrong with your imagination then.
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What is interesting, is when it was discussed all of 30 seconds, no mention at all of race.There is a major preoccupation with protecting minorities, and not stirring up the white population. We also see with all the knock-out attacks. These people behave like savages, and we accept it as the norm. Not unusual right? After all, it's just inner city Detroit right? Just normal behavior.
YES CBS Detroit reports that it was a "white man" who was beaten, thus throwing red meat to the hyenas. This exposes how conservative the mainstream media really is.
So blacks are "over-protected eh? Liberal media my foot.
Past deeds done by one group to another do not in any way justify someone taking out their anger on an innocent person just because they're a member of a different group. That is absurd, and is the type of mindset that results in people spending their whole lives in the criminal justice system while blaming everyone but themselves for it.
Someone I know who is from the area I'm from was shot in the back of the head about a month ago by a black guy in Florida who dumped his body by a lake. If one of his friends were to go take out his anger on some random black person you would not find me condoning or attempting to rationalize their idiotic animalistic behavior.
Black people murder white people at 6x the rate that white people murder black people. If some white people used this as a justification for going out and attacking random black people you would not be rationalizing their behavior and talking about actions creating reactions and consequences and then telling people to "deal with it."
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, it can't be a hate crime, black have no hate, only white can be charge with a hate crime. The white driver could be charge with a hate crime because he deliberately hit a black child. Its the same as racism, black don't have one drop of racism in them.
You took the quote out of the context of what it was in response to......which is the perception that there is a double standard. My response was to say that double standards are often the consequence of double (different) histories. White hate and racism was a cancer that had metastasized and ravaged black people. If anything, its in sort of a remission stage.....but it needs to be watched carefully and when symptoms resurface it needs to be taken seriously. Black racism and hate has been benign. It has not caused any massive socioeconomic racial destruction as has white racism. If anything, it can only make things WORSE for black people, because whites have the REAL power in the nation. For example, take the organization that is seen as a hate group in the black community.....The Nation of Islam led by Louse Farrakhan. What have they EVER done to white people? Now look at the Klan and the history of what they have done to black people. No comparison. What happened to all the black leaders who fought the system? They were KILLED! When was the last time the leader of a white hate group has been assassinated under questionable or controversial circumstance. Any black threat to whites will be eliminated posthaste. One really is not a threat without POWER and whites have the POWER. The day blacks have REAL power, meaning economic and political......then talk to me about black racism and hate and I will give you audience.
So my response had nothing to do with providing a rationalization for the attack on the white guy in the D based upon history. It was simply an attempt to explain why white hate is looked at more closely. Black hate ultimately backfires and makes things worse for blacks. White hate makes things worse for blacks to the benefit of whites. The only negative consequence to whites for their hate is the perception that they are racist.....while they get the market benefit of not having to compete with blacks for scarce resources due to the consequence of their racism.
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Those are national figures with a large sample size, not some small town with a small sample size. The numbers vary a little from year to year, but pick any year- 2009, 2010, 2011- and black people proportionally commit more hate crimes.
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Blacks are exposed to whites at much, much higher rates than whites are exposed to blacks due to their being far more whites than blacks in this country. Crimes are generally against people you come in contact with and blacks come in contact with whites at much higher rates that whites come into contact with blacks.
That is rather strange logic considering that every time a black person comes into contact with a white person, a white person must also come into contact with a black person at the same time. Therefor, logically, the number of times a white person comes into contact with a black person is equal to the number of times a black person comes into contact with a white person.
In other words, out of all the meetings between a white person and a black person, the white person is statistically much more likely to be the one being victimized.
Hate crime statistics are useless because bias crimes against whites are not reported since whites are not a protected class. This story proves it, since it was obviously a racially-motivated attack but it is not being reported as such.
On top of that many hispanics are automatically lumped into the white category so their crimes/victims aren't reported correctly either.
Those are national figures with a large sample size, not some small town with a small sample size. The numbers vary a little from year to year, but pick any year- 2009, 2010, 2011- and black people proportionally commit more hate crimes.
That is rather strange logic considering that every time a black person comes into contact with a white person, a white person must also come into contact with a black person at the same time. Therefor, logically, the number of times a white person comes into contact with a black person is equal to the number of times a black person comes into contact with a white person.
In other words, out of all the meetings between a white person and a black person, the white person is statistically much more likely to be the one being victimized.
This is the problem with so many people. The lack of a keen grasp of logic. 100 people in a room. 13 black and 70 white. Each black person in a room shakes hand with one and only one white person. Question. What percentage of blacks shook hands with whites and what percentage of white shook hands with blacks? Remember, you said that each time a black person was coming into contact with a white person a white person was coming in contact with a black person.
The answer is 100% of blacks and only 19% of whites. Thus, if 5% of blacks harbored ill will towards whites, out of the group, all of them would have opportunity to impact a white person but if 5% of whites harbored ill will toward blacks likely only one percent would get the opportunity to come in contact with a black person to manifest ill behavior, if one assumes the 5% of whites is equally distributed. In other words, given 19% of whites had contact with blacks, each fifth of whites would be 1% racist. Thus, thist examples explains why whites would be more impacted at higher rates by blacks than blacks by whites......its statistical probability.
You took the quote out of the context of what it was in response to......which is the perception that there is a double standard. My response was to say that double standards are often the consequence of double (different) histories.
Ok, but two wrongs don't make a right.
White racism= wrong
Double standard= wrong
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Any black threat to whites will be eliminated posthaste. One really is not a threat without POWER and whites have the POWER.
Only a very small fraction of whites have any real power, political or economic. Being white isn't a birthright into having money and political influence.
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The day blacks have REAL power, meaning economic and political......then talk to me about black racism and hate and I will give you audience.
People can't stop being racist unless they have money and political influence?
Only a very small fraction of whites have any real power, political or economic. Being white isn't a birthright into having money and political influence.
People can't stop being racist unless they have money and political influence?
You are being willfully obtuse. The issue is not two wrong making a right, but the law of nature that says that every action creates an equal and opposite reaction. Whites need to accept that their racism, past and present, has produced profound reactions. Many whites note the action.....but refuse to note the logic that those actions produce reactions (problems).
Collectively whites have the power to shape national laws and politics through majority rule and the conspiracy of like minds. Money and numbers shapes politics and policies and whites have the most numbers and money. Hence, their racism manifest systemically and causes socioeconomic problems. Hence, any black racism can be squashed systemically through white majority rule. Blacks have no such power to systemically combat white racism. We are dependent upon whites to police themselves and see the wrongs that they do......which is hard because whites generally do not recognize their wrongs when they are doing them.....but only when the look back. They rarely see their actions as wrong in the present. They are able to look back at previous generation of whites and recognize their wrongs, but each generation has failed to see their contemporary wrongs....and changed had to be FORCED upon them by the few with power who did recognize the wrongs....but only after decades, if not centuries, of the persistence of the wrongs.
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Hate crime statistics are useless because bias crimes against whites are not reported since whites are not a protected class. This story proves it, since it was obviously a racially-motivated attack but it is not being reported as such.
On top of that many hispanics are automatically lumped into the white category so their crimes/victims aren't reported correctly either.
Did you even bother to read the article?? Look at the freakin' headline.
It was "obviously racial" only to white racists (or some weird minorities who support them). You have no idea if it was or was not racial - or just a crime of opportunity.
You assume it was racial because you need it for your conservative self-verification.
the white hit him with the car. he's fair game in my eyes.
That is certainly the view of the men who jumped him. Are you saying that's the commonly held belief that whites are fair game if they, even accidentally, do harm to members of your race? Well, that's good to know.
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