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Old 04-04-2014, 11:48 AM
 
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Karma is a b****, and the scumbag who sent that letter will get theirs. My stepfather has leukemia. He has been dealing with it (quite well actually) since 2001. Had he received a letter like that, I'd be inclined to try and track down and find the SOB who sent it, and have a little chat if you know what I mean.
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:49 AM
 
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I feel bad she has cancer, but her ACA nightmare story has been thoroughly debunked.
A more thorough investigation it has been determined that she was telling the truth. And even Dirty Harry is trying to say he didn't call her a liar. Why, because he now knows she wasn't lying.

Dan Calabrese: The rest of the story on Julie Boonstra's Obamacare disaster - Politics Blog - The Detroit News
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:52 AM
 
Location: San Francisco born/raised - Las Vegas
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How is one person ALL LIBERALS?
Failed arithmetic?
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:54 AM
 
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Update: Julie Boonstra’s claim her Obamacare plan is ‘unaffordable’ gets downgraded to Three Pinocchios


in summary
In other words, her old plan cost $13,200 a year—before co-pays and other out-of-pocket expenses. The new plan is $11,952—including co-pays and out of pocket expenses. That’s a savings of more than $1,200 a year.


So yeah, its unaffordable . because you only look at the cost increases and ignore the benefits.

Thats the way to . . make a case


Even the above article notes

Then on Monday, The Detroit News (which took the journalism part seriously enough to actually talk to Boonstra), analyzed the plan Boonstra chose from BCBSM and concluded that, because of lower premiums and a cap on annual spending, the new plan would actually save Boonstra $1,000 a year.


and the only way the author can say the NEW plan would cost this lady more . .is if she started going out of network. A big IF (stay in network lady)


So both the article the OP posted and the media report the same thing

she saved over a grand a year on the new plan

how is that bad I ask?
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:54 AM
 
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A more thorough investigation it has been determined that she was telling the truth. And even Dirty Harry is trying to say he didn't call her a liar. Why, because he now knows she wasn't lying.

Dan Calabrese: The rest of the story on Julie Boonstra's Obamacare disaster - Politics Blog - The Detroit News
Basically a lot of what if's. Here is the salient part of the story that didn't include any what ifs.

Then on Monday, The Detroit News (which took the journalism part seriously enough to actually talk to Boonstra), analyzed the plan Boonstra chose from BCBSM and concluded that, because of lower premiums and a cap on annual spending, the new plan would actually save Boonstra $1,000 a year.
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:55 AM
 
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Any hate letters to Ms Boonstra are simply horrible. I'm sure the vast majority of people hope that she is able to beat her cancer.

The ads the AFP ran about Ms Boonstra are also horrible. Horrible for the AFP to use Ms Boonstra's illness as a political tool, and horrible because the ads themselves don't accurately describe Ms Boonstra's situation. Ms Boonstra actually ended up better off with her new policy. She got lower premiums, and while her out-of-pocket expenses were higher, they were more than offset by the lower premiums.

Factcheck: Harry Reid wrongly blames Kochs for 'horror stories'

This. The Free Press contacted Ms. Boonstra about her plan and it was found that she would save over $1K with her new Obamacare insurance.

Also, Ms. Boonstra said that she still felt it was more expensive due to BCBS (her Obamacare insurance) not covering a special medication she was on. BCBS in MI was contacted and they said they do cover her prescription.

So I think that the AFP was using Ms. Boonstra. I know that insurance is very confusing for people though and that she may not have understood everything about her new plan and so I do find it detestable that the people who wrote her horrible letters did such a thing, but AFP are the ones to blame for using a sick woman to tell a lie. They could have easily checked her plan to be sure that what she thought was correct was actually correct and they didn't.

Dexter Patient who called Healthcare "unaffordable" will save more than $1K.
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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The problem is Harry Reid talking like a horse's ass, again, and in a total fog about the consequences of the figurative crap that comes out of his mouth. He thinks because he's an old man that he has a built in excuse for blathering.
Reid “and any Democrat who agrees with him, owes an apology to all Americans who are suffering under this disastrous law and whose personal stories he has dismissed as ‘untrue” is precisely on point. Has the Democratic Party become so shallow, so morally bankrupt, so hungry for power that it can so easily and so venomously dismiss the concerns expressed by Americans.
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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A more thorough investigation it has been determined that she was telling the truth. And even Dirty Harry is trying to say he didn't call her a liar. Why, because he now knows she wasn't lying.

Dan Calabrese: The rest of the story on Julie Boonstra's Obamacare disaster - Politics Blog - The Detroit News
No, it's not because he knows she wasn't lying. It's because he got called out on his lies.
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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Reid “and any Democrat who agrees with him, owes an apology to all Americans who are suffering under this disastrous law and whose personal stories he has dismissed as ‘untrue” is precisely on point. Has the Democratic Party become so shallow, so morally bankrupt, so hungry for power that it can so easily and so venomously dismiss the concerns expressed by Americans.
Yes, we can and we should dismiss untrue false and fake concerns expressed by anyone.
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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Then when he was caught giving his granddaughter, Ryan Elizabeth Reid, campaign money Reid was angered at what he labeled “negative, unwanted attention” on his granddaughter. Reid said “At this point, I only wish that my granddaughter be spared from further attacks, harassing visits and phone calls, and other kinds of unwanted attention.”

It's ok for Reid to attack anyone who is hurt by Obamacare but don't touch his own family when Dirty Harry is caught.
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