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Old 03-12-2014, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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The human race was born out of all the previous mass extinctions...

How about them apples?
We are going to be apart of a mass extinctions if we don't stop acting like primates with nice toys.

 
Old 03-12-2014, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Meanwhile on the rest of the planet we had the 4th warmest temperature ever recorded. Thanks for the info about the U.S though.

No Global Warming? NOAA Says January Was Fourth Warmest on Record
To the scientifically illiterate, climate change does not exist below 76 degrees.

The Dumbing Down of America is a smashing success.
 
Old 03-12-2014, 10:38 PM
 
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Of course it does. Thanks to the sun and the planet itself.
The sun is going through a cooling period.

When it goes red, I'm outta here!
 
Old 03-13-2014, 12:03 AM
 
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It's quite sad that people value their money more than the future of the human race.
It's quite sad that certain people purposely use scare tactics to control other peoples lives.

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Old 03-13-2014, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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It's quite sad that certain people purposely use scare tactics to control other peoples lives.
The scare tactics as you call them are no different than predicting a hurricane and asking people to prepare...The only difference in the global warming warnings and hurricane warnings is the amount of time we have to prepare and the fact that we can actually slow or lessen climate change, but have no control over hurricanes...The science is solid regardless of your denial of the facts...It is now beyond the point of being a prediction as the warming and it's effects are obvious, measurable and undeniable.
 
Old 03-13-2014, 01:07 AM
 
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It seems some people do not understand the meaning of the word 'global'.

They also have no understanding of the science behind it.
Colder winters in the northeastern parts of the US will be one of the consequences of 'global warming', but they just don't understand that.
You mean UhMericuh is not the only place on Earth???
 
Old 03-13-2014, 01:48 AM
 
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The scare tactics as you call them are no different than predicting a hurricane and asking people to prepare...The only difference in the global warming warnings and hurricane warnings is the amount of time we have to prepare and the fact that we can actually slow or lessen climate change, but have no control over hurricanes...The science is solid regardless of your denial of the facts...It is now beyond the point of being a prediction as the warming and it's effects are obvious, measurable and undeniable
If that's case why do they keep coming up with excuses to explain the pause.--Anyways keep believing in the hoax

“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”


1) Yet Another Explanation! New study claims low solar activity caused “the pause” in global temperature – but AGW will return! Published in journal Atmospheric and Climate Sciences

2) THE OCEANS ATE OUR GLOBAL WARMING! NEW PAPER BY KEVIN TRENBERTH: GLOBAL WARMING ‘PAUSE’ DUE TO PACIFIC OCEAN CYCLE (more here:

3) Chinese coal caused the ‘pause’, published in the proceedings of the National Academy of Science. The study blamed Chinese coal use for the lack of global warming. Global warming proponents essentially claimed that coal use is saving us from dangerous global warming

4) The Montreal Protocol caused the ‘pause‘, which reduced CFC’s – but warming will return soon

5) The ‘pause’ never existed and presto, warmists readjusted Arctic temperatures to alter past global temperatures. See: Say What?! After years trying to ‘explain away’ the flatline/pause/standstill’ in global temperatures, warmists now readjust past temps to claim ‘pause’ never existed! - See: Presto! There was no global temperature standstill! Warmists rewrite temperature data to claim: ‘Global Warming Since 1997 Underestimated by Half’ (also see: Climatologist Dr. Judith Curry on the Cowtan & Way ‘pausebuster’: ‘Is there anything useful [in it]?’)

6) Volcanic aerosols, not pollutants, tamped down recent Earth warming, says CU study – March 2013: A team led by the University of Colorado Boulder looking for clues about why Earth did not warm as much as scientists expected between 2000 and 2010 now thinks the culprits are hiding in plain sight — dozens of volcanoes spewing sulfur dioxide. The study results essentially exonerate Asia, including India and China, two countries that are estimated to have increased their industrial sulfur dioxide emissions by about 60 percent from 2000 to 2010 through coal burning…Small amounts of sulfur dioxide emissions from Earth’s surface eventually rise 12 to 20 miles into the stratospheric aerosol layer of the atmosphere, where chemical reactions create sulfuric acid and water particles that reflect sunlight back to space, cooling the planet. Neely said previous observations suggest that increases in stratospheric aerosols since 2000 have counterbalanced as much as 25 percent of the warming scientists blame on human greenhouse gas emissions. “This new study indicates it is emissions from small to moderate volcanoes that have been slowing the warming of the planet.”

7) Contributions of Stratospheric Water Vapor to Decadal Changes in the Rate of Global Warming – 2010 Science Mag.: Stratospheric water vapor concentrations decreased by about 10% after the year 2000. Here we show that this acted to slow the rate of increase in global surface temperature over 2000–2009 by about 25% compared to that which would have occurred due only to carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.’

8) Update Feb. 9, 2014: New paper finds excuse #8 for the ‘pause’ in global warming: Pacific trade winds: A paper published today in Nature Climate Change adds the eighth excuse for the ‘pause’ in global warming: strengthened Pacific trade winds, which according to the authors, were “not captured [simulated] by climate models.” On the basis of those same highly-flawed climate models, the authors predict rapid global warming will resume in a decade or so when those trade winds abate.

9) Update Feb. 28, 2014 via WattsUpWithThat.com: Stadium Waves. Wyatt and Curry 2013. ‘Stadium waves’ could explain lull in global warming. In a recent paper, Marcia Wyatt and Judith Curry posited about “Stadium Waves” and climate, suggesting that the ‘stadium-wave’ signal propagates like the cheer known as “the wave” at sporting events whereby sections of sports fans seated in a circular or oval stadium stand and sit as a ‘wave’ propagates through the audience…The stadium wave periodically enhances or dampens the trend of long-term rising temperatures, which may explain the recent hiatus in rising global surface temperatures. “The stadium wave signal predicts that the current pause in global warming could extend into the 2030s,” said Wyatt, an independent scientist after having earned her Ph.D. from the University of Colorado in 2012.

10) Update: Feb. 27, 2014: A new excuse (#9) of the global warming ‘pause’ according to NASA scientists – ‘Coincidence!’ — ‘Coincidence, conspired to dampen warming trends’: NASA’s Gavin Schmidt & colleagues finds ‘that a combination of factors, by coincidence, conspired to dampen warming trends in the real world after about 1992’ – Latest excuse (excuse #9) for global temperature standstill mocked by skeptics: ‘Apparently, if you go back and rework all the forcings, taking into account new data estimates (add half a bottle of post-hoc figures) and ‘reanalyses’ of old data (add a tablespoon of computer simulation) you can bridge the gap and explain away the pause.’



There is a potential 11th excuse of the pause as well.....LOL


Another cause of ‘pause’?! New Study: ‘Smell of forest pine can limit climate change’ – ‘Pine forest smell could be the smell that actually limits climate change from reaching such levels that it could become really a problem in the world’ - Smell of Pine May Save us From Climate Doom!? Study published in the journal Nature: ‘New research suggests a strong link between the powerful smell of pine trees and climate change. Scientists say they’ve found a mechanism by which these scented vapours turn into aerosols above boreal forests. These particles promote cooling by reflecting sunlight back into space and helping clouds to form’ – Cooling effect: The authors believe that this is playing a significant role in reducing the impact of rising temperatures. They argue that this effect is likely to strengthen in the future. ’In a warmer world, photosynthesis will become faster with rising CO2, which will lead to more vegetation and more emissions of these vapours,’ said lead author, Dr Mikael Ehn, now based at the University of Helsinki. ‘This should produce more cloud droplets and this should then have a cooling impact, it should be a damping effect.’ Dr Ehn believes the vapours could have a significant impact in the medium term. ’If you go into a pine forest and notice that pine forest smell, that could be the smell that actually limits climate change from reaching such levels that it could become really a problem in the world.’


The good part about all of this is that more and more are becoming deniers!

Climate Change Not a Top Worry in U.S.
U.S. concerns with the quality of the environment dropped in 2014--Majority of Americans worry only little or not at all about global warming

Climate Change Not a Top Worry in U.S.
 
Old 03-13-2014, 02:18 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I've already presented evidence, as have others proving that there has been no pause...I don't know why I waste my time on the willfully blind, as for less people being concerned, that is simply because the US has more than it's share of ignorant people.
 
Old 03-13-2014, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I've already presented evidence, as have others proving that there has been no pause...I don't know why I waste my time on the willfully blind, as for less people being concerned, that is simply because the US has more than it's share of ignorant people.
Probably because you think these folks have the potential to be like us reasonable, rational people. They don't. They are ignorant and they are proud to be ignorant. But it goes far deeper than ignorance, there is a real pathology at work here, the reasons of which are varied. Most are extremely selfish people and have been taught that science is a liberal ploy to raise their taxes. Others are religious and rather than attempt to understand basic science just pretend God will magically save the earth (even though God is plenty content to let mankind set fire to the planet)

The reasons the scientifically illiterate don't believe in basic science are varied, and no doubt this ignorance deepened and cultivated by media outlets who are profiting from the fossil fuel industry, the most lucrative industry on earth.
 
Old 03-13-2014, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Oh no...Lions, Tigers, Bears and Global Warming...Oh no...Lions, Tigers, Bears and Global Warming...

We're off to see the wizard the wonderful wizard of Global Warming!!!!

US Having Its Coldest Six Month Period Since 1912 | Real Science
SHHHH.. You are one of the global climate change deniers the dems in the senate were talking about.
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