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Old 04-17-2014, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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You STILL don't get that graph? You still don't get that GISS use a 30 year base period from 1951-1980 or what that even means? You still don't get the idea of using temperature anomalies and not absolute temperatures? Seriously? This basic stuff.

Please. Go read those links I posted about temperature anomalies relative to the base period. It's not rocket science.
Sigh. The Little Ice Age "ended" roughly 1850, depending whose data you use.

What happens when an ice age ends? Hint: it does NOT get colder.

Global mean temperature is still nowhere near that of the medieval warming period. You could look it up.

Your side fails to take into context both things I have mentioned. You have decided that CO2 is the cause of perceived relative warming and you continue to ignore the full context of climate history,

 
Old 04-17-2014, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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No. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him think.
Actually, the saying is that you can lead a liberal to the library, but you cant make him think!
 
Old 04-17-2014, 12:59 PM
 
Location: on a hill
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Great read! The polar ice caps are.....GROWING!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...239,bs.1,d.b2I
 
Old 04-17-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Great read! The polar ice caps are.....GROWING!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...239,bs.1,d.b2I
Do you know what ice density means?
 
Old 04-17-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: on a hill
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Enlighten us. Are you a scientist?
 
Old 04-17-2014, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Enlighten us. Are you a scientist?
No, but I understand the difference with ice density.
Density of Ice

Of you want to understand why ice is expanding on the South Pole, then it is important to understand what ice density means.
 
Old 04-17-2014, 02:15 PM
 
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No, but I understand the difference with ice density.
Density of Ice

Of you want to understand why ice is expanding on the South Pole, then it is important to understand what ice density means.
Explain it to us. I bet you can't. That link you posted doesn't explain what you are hinting at.
 
Old 04-17-2014, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Explain it to us. I bet you can't. That link you posted doesn't explain what you are hinting at.
Ice density is the measurement of how dense ice is. The growing ice in the South Pole has a much lower ice density, so while it looks like more, it is actually losing density as it continues to spread outward and melt.

This explains in good detail why the sea ice at the South Pole has been growing.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Great read! The polar ice caps are.....GROWING!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...239,bs.1,d.b2I
Too bad it's not true, isn't it? The Greenland ice sheet has been rapidly losing mass over recent years. Scientists are recording increased sea level rise at a compatible rate to the ice loss.
Meanwhile, though the Antarctic sea ice is increasing, land ice (the ice cap) is consistently decreasing.
 
Old 04-17-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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Could you please specifically reference a scientific source?
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