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Old 04-06-2014, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by Ivorytickler View Post
Um, we've always paid for convict's health care.
Not at the local level. City, county, state prisoners are paid for by residents of that city, county, state.

All the costs are now being shifted to the Federal level.

Expanded medicaid shifts the cost from the state to the Fed..100%.

 
Old 04-06-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Bosco55David View Post
If KUChief was a smart person, he'd realize it's simply a shift in how this is paid for. They were already getting healthcare.
True, but who will pay the premiums and its just another way to pad the numbers.
 
Old 04-06-2014, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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This article is 1 year old - pre "Obamacare". Based on a 1997 ruling many states already tap Medicaid for hospital services.
Medicaid Funding for Inmates' Health Care Squandered by Many States -- Stateline

A 1997 ruling says that care provided to inmates beyond the walls of the prison qualifies for Medicaid reimbursement if the prisoner is Medicaid eligible. The federal government then pays 50 percent to 84 percent of Medicaid costs.

Right now, in most states, only prisoners who are pregnant, disabled or aged are eligible for Medicaid coverage when they need outside medical attention.

But most states and localities don’t bother to seek Medicaid reimbursement for that limited class of prisoners, an omission that deprives them of millions of dollars in potential federal reimbursement.

So far, only Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Nebraska, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Washington and some scattered local governments are tapping Medicaid to pay for inpatient medical and nursing home care. A few more states are looking into it, including Georgia, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Mexico, New York and Virginia.

In states that are using Medicaid to help pay for hospital stays, the most common type of medical care that qualifies is hospitalization for childbirth, nursing home care for elderly inmates and surgery and other treatments for cancer, liver disease and other illnesses. Arkansas uses Medicaid exclusively to cover hospitalization of pregnant inmates.
 
Old 04-06-2014, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Originally Posted by KUchief25 View Post
Yes the "shift" is to YOU. LOL. You appear to not be smart.
OK KU, who was paying for inmates' healthcare before Obamacare?
 
Old 04-06-2014, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
State and local prisons are not paid for by federal taxes.
They will now because the state and local prisons are moving the prisoners to Obamacare.

You have only paid for your local prisoners via local taxes.

Now we get to "share the cost" at the Federal level.
We will now be paying more, not less via federal taxes.

So all those states that paid for inmate sex change surgeries can pass the cost to Uncle Sam and we'll be paying that price.
And yes it is covered under Obamacare.
Well seeing that we live in a prison country that loves to put anyone and everyone in prison, it makes sense to do it at a federal level. Maybe we will begin to address the fact that we have too many people in prison.

If anything, this will just mean more money from blue states will be going to red states, and the US will pay for the cost of Texas who loves to throw anyone and anyone into prison.

But end the end it will be the taxpayers paying for something the taxpayers have currently paid for, so nothing is really changes except for sharing the burden.
 
Old 04-06-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well seeing that we live in a prison country that loves to put anyone and everyone in prison, it makes sense to do it at a federal level. Maybe we will begin to address the fact that we have too many people in prison.

If anything, this will just mean more money from blue states will be going to red states, and the US will pay for the cost of Texas who loves to throw anyone and anyone into prison.

But end the end it will be the taxpayers paying for something the taxpayers have currently paid for, so nothing is really changes except for sharing the burden.
Sorry to burst your liberal bubble but Texas didn't sign up for "expanded medicaid" under Obamacare
You'll have to settle for California
 
Old 04-06-2014, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Sorry to burst your liberal bubble but Texas didn't sign up for "expanded medicaid" under Obamacare
You'll have to settle for California
Oh good, at least we don't have to pay for Texas' inmates cause we know that state loves to imprison people.
 
Old 04-06-2014, 05:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
Just wait, in a few years we'll see surveys about how blue states are paying for red states inmates and they will wine about it then just like they whine now about the federal government buying services from red states proclaiming its welfare..
See, didnt even take a few years.. only took a few hours
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If anything, this will just mean more money from blue states will be going to red states, and the US will pay for the cost of Texas who loves to throw anyone and anyone into prison.
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Originally Posted by urbanlife78 View Post
Well seeing that we live in a prison country that loves to put anyone and everyone in prison, it makes sense to do it at a federal level. Maybe we will begin to address the fact that we have too many people in prison.
Actually thats the reason NOT to do it, and I've explained it numerous times on this very thread..

You guys are far too predictable..
 
Old 04-06-2014, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Oh good, at least we don't have to pay for Texas' inmates cause we know that state loves to imprison people.
Texas has a 3 strikes policy and still strictly enforces drug laws.
We're #3 in prison population but we're also at the top of the "Safest cities" reports as well.
 
Old 04-06-2014, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Originally Posted by don draper View Post
i thought convicts paid their own health care costs out of pocket

i never knew that tax payers paid for their health costs while they are in prison

man, i'm outraged beyond belief!!!!!! Obama is nuts!!!!
thanks obama!
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