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Old 04-06-2014, 07:28 PM
 
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How can hand grenades be responsible for violence since they are inanimate objects.
Uh they're not responsible, are you saying they pull their own pins?
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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How can hand grenades be responsible for violence since they are inanimate objects.
Absolutely right. They won't explode on their own.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Uh they're not responsible, are you saying they pull their own pins?
Why don't we give hand grenades to all citizens, they are all reasonable and we need not worry since they are inanimate objects.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Why don't we give hand grenades to all citizens, they are all reasonable and we need not worry since they are inanimate objects.
Sounds good to me!!! Where do I get in line?
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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It's not hard at all to argue against this suggestion. Most gun deaths in the US are suicides.
Suicides account for most gun deaths | Pew Research Center

Yet there are many other implements used for suicide, such as ropes, razors, and bedsheets. Would you be "far more concerned" about a Surgeon General who neglected to discuss banning ropes, razors, and bedsheets?
Suicide itself is a public health issue, regardless of the means used to accomplish the act. I'd be concerned about any prospective Surgeon General who didn't understand the public health implications of suicide.

Again, I'd also be concerned about his inability to recognize gun deaths as a public health issue; regardless of whether those deaths were classified as murder, homicide, or self-inflicted.

Deaths by automobile occur, of course, overwhelmingly with no human intent whatsoever. Maybe a handful of suicides, and a very rare murder by vehicle (usually an angry ex-lover!) mixed-in. Yet, such deaths remain an acknowledged public health issue.

I wouldn't be concerned about the Surgeon General's personal opinions about gun laws, automobile safety features, The Federal Reserve Banking System, diplomatic relations with Ecuador, who he picked to win The Final Four--or any other matter in which the position holds no legislative or regulatory oversight.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:50 PM
 
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Why don't we give hand grenades to all citizens, they are all reasonable and we need not worry since they are inanimate objects.
I would worry if you had one, because contrary to what you said you are definitely not "reasonable", nor responsible. If you accidentally blew yourself up which you probably would, it wouldn't be the grenade's fault, it would be your fault. I know it's a foreign concept for liberals to accept responsibility, but that's just the way the world works.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:51 PM
 
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Suicide itself is a public health issue, regardless of the means used to accomplish the act. I'd be concerned about any prospective Surgeon General who didn't understand the public health implications of suicide.

Again, I'd also be concerned about his inability to recognize gun deaths as a public health issue; regardless of whether those deaths were classified as murder, homicide, or self-inflicted.

Deaths by automobile occur, of course, overwhelmingly with no human intent whatsoever. Maybe a handful of suicides, and a very rare murder by vehicle (usually an angry ex-lover!) mixed-in. Yet, such deaths remain an acknowledged public health issue.

I wouldn't be concerned about the Surgeon General's personal opinions about gun laws, automobile safety features, The Federal Reserve Banking System, diplomatic relations with Ecuador, who he picked to win The Final Four--or any other matter in which the position holds no legislative or regulatory oversight.
All reasonable comments. But we know the NRA thought police will do whatever it takes and extort politicians to prevent qualified individuals from being approved.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:54 PM
 
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All reasonable comments. But we know the NRA thought police will do whatever it takes and extort politicians to prevent qualified individuals from being approved.
I don't know why you keep saying "thought police". They don't care what you think, they only care when you try to take away our constitutional rights, and rightly so. We're not going to ignore it because doing so would admit defeat.
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:27 PM
 
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I don't know why you keep saying "thought police". They don't care what you think, they only care when you try to take away our constitutional rights, and rightly so. We're not going to ignore it because doing so would admit defeat.
Can you show any instance where the doctor tried to take away anybody's constitutional right?
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:53 AM
 
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I must have missed it. What Federal gun control bills has the president introduced and signed into law in the last 6 years?
If the question gives you pause, I will give you a hint. None! Zip! NADA!
As a bonus question,
What gun control bill has any surgeon general in the history of the nation sponsored, signed, passed or submitted to congress?

I guess the other thread started about dirty seditious liberals wanting to ban all guns hit home with too much truth so you had to start another one along the same lines.
The debate may be done on a federal level but the states are taking swift action to pass such legislation. MD is one example but why is it still the 4th most violent in the country when such legislation has passed in a state ruled by liberal democrats?
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