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Old 04-11-2014, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
The democrats only want to ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines (the weapons mass murders choose to kill our children in schools, kill people in movie theaters, ex.ex.)

The democrats don't want to take everyone's guns, they just want to get military grade hardware out the hands of mass murders.


Here's Joe Bidden possibly threatening to kill B. Obama if he tries to take (his) guns.


Does it matter that more people are killed by hammers
than all rifles combined, not just the scary black ones?
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Does it matter that more people are killed by hammers
than all rifles combined, not just the scary black ones?
There are 30,000 people killed by guns every year, more are killed by hammers?

The scary black gun reference is tiresome, that is the usual misrepresentation that it must be the color rather than the function.
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
The democrats only want to ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines (the weapons mass murders choose to kill our children in schools, kill people in movie theaters, ex.ex.)

The democrats don't want to take everyone's guns, they just want to get military grade hardware out the hands of mass murders.


Here's Joe Bidden possibly threatening to kill B. Obama if he tries to take (his) guns.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT-ueNjc_D0
Yeah that is a complete lie chad

"Assault Weapons" you and the Democrats want to ban are nothing more then semi automatic firearms that have a few cosmetic feature and ergonomical designs. They are no different then any other semi auto firearm over the last 100 plus years .

They are used in a hand full of criminal acts, and even then more people are killed by hammers then "assault weapons" FBI: More People Killed with Hammers, Clubs Each Year than Rifles

But overwhelmingly 99.99999999999999% they are used for hunting, recreational, competition, and self defense from criminals or tyranny foreign or domestic.

Our rights are quite clear, we have the Right To Keep And Bear Arms, and that right is not to be infringed upon by anyone for any reason.

And we will not give them up....period


Democrats are quite clear what they want, mean, say, and support









Tell explain these statements away chad..

We hat the right to own "military grade hardware" in order to protect our liberty, lives, and our property for all who dare threaten them..
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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'Merica! Love it or leave it, ya goddamn hippie!
That is artisan, change the story...

If you don't like the liberty and freedoms this nation has and are protected by law, leave....visit the very civilized nations of Mexico, Brazil or Venezuela, or Chicago or Baltimore.

The Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Maoist China, Castro`s Cuba all had such strict gun laws...How civilized they were...
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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There are 30,000 people killed by guns every year, more are killed by hammers?

The scary black gun reference is tiresome, that is the usual misrepresentation that it must be the color rather than the function.
Yes. Ask the FBI.
FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 11

Blunt objects - 496
Bare hands - 726
Rifles - 323

BTW, where do you get 30,000?
The FBI says total murder victims in 2011 was 12,664.
FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Your part of America values denying health care to poor people, destroying bargaining power for employees and empowering the rich to rape the economy. I want nothing to do with 'your America' and I look forward to your defeat at the polls.
That is right artisan change the subject..

Am I standing in the door way of a hospital? No, so how am I standing in the way of healthcare?

This so called Affordable Healthcare Act will not make prices cheaper, or increase the quality of care, premiums will sky rocket, plans will be canceled by the tens of millions.

Unions are clearly not best of the market place and for the worker, the recent failed unionize attempt in TN has proved this..Why should workers be allowed to over rule the owner of a business? More over why are their soo many rules, laws, and regulations that prevent the little guy or entrepreneur from competing or even getting started in the first place?

That is right the rich are "raping the economy" its not the fact their friends in Washington help them and have their tentacles in every industry, making rules, regulations and laws on whines to help their friends in industry...So yeah we can solve this by limiting the power the government has on commence and industry so their influence and corruption can be contained and not allowed to run unchecked..

We have seen "Your Amerika" comrade, it is the same failure time and time again across nation after nation, across all of human history collectivistic statism indeed all statism fails.

The 2nd Amendment gives We The People The final say on liberty, an armed citizenry is capable of persevering their liberty and prosperity from all who threaten them both foreign but history show domestic are the mostly likely cause of impoverishment, subjugation, tyranny, and extermination...

Their are many nations of this world in which suit you and people like you and your views, leave to them, we have the right to live and live freely, under the protect of the Constitution.

The Three Truths:
1. Americans exist.
2. Americans have the right to exist.
3.Americans have the right to exist as Americans.


"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!â€

Samuel Adams

Truly the Founders were the most brilliant men that ever lived...
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I'm pretty sure that bullets are bad for your health.

"Furthermore, Murthy’s views represent a consensus among medical professionals that gun violence is a major public health issue. Gun violence, including suicide, kills some 30,000 Americans every year, about the same number as car accidents. Cars are highly regulated for health and safety; guns, barely."

The outrage here is misplaced. Americans should be outraged that the giant corporate gun lobby is trying to decide who the surgeon general should be. I don't remember the tobacco lobby having anything to say about Surgeon General C. Everett Koop, Reagan's nomination.

Doctors ‘Aghast’ That Surgeon General Nominee Blocked For Gun Control Views | CommonHealth

Why the NRA Is Blocking Obama
The NRA is not a lobby, it is a Civil Rights Group...Most of its wealth is based on the giving of funds by memebership

Furthermore car ownership is not found in the Bill Of Rights, The Right To Keep And Bear Arms is, and quite clearly says shall not be infringed.

Myth: Guns should be registered and licensed like cars

Fact: You do not need a license to buy a car. You can buy as many as you want and drive them all you like on your own property without a license.

Fact: Cars are registered because they are (a) sources of tax revenue, (b) objects of fraud in some transactions, and (c) significant theft targets. Thus we ask the government to track them.

Fact: There is no constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear automobiles, and thus they are subject to greater regulation than guns.

Fact: There are more guns in the U.S. than cars (228,000,000 guns and 207,754,000 automobiles). Yet you are 31 times more likely to be accidentally killed by a car than a gun according to the National Safety Council 15 … despite cars having been registered and licensed for almost 100 years.
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:54 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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First of all what is an assault weapon? Please explain this to me and i will MAYBE take your response somewhat seriously.

Nobody wants military grade hardware in a mass murderers hands , and all gun owners support safety and common sense laws. The problem is that it is such few incidents that you are trying to compare here. How many mass shootings have we had? How come we never heard about them much before Obama ?

This is like trying to tell a Ferrari car collector he cant have them anymore because a few people have died from them or someone used them to run over people in a mass attempt.

So please tell me why some states wanted to reduce magazine rounds down to 6 or 7 bullets max capacity ? Do you understand that would BAN almost every gun? The problem is that states have been passing laws to lower the magazine capacity , one day its 15 then 10 then 8 then 4 then 0.... Do you see how it works? This is the problem. Its a crippling effect, you give a little and they take a mile.
A assault weapon is the kind of weapon used in the Columbine shootings, Sandy Hook Elementary school shootings, beltway sniper shootings, aurora movie theater shootings, ex.ex. Assault weapons are the weapon of choice of most mass murderers.

"The term assault weapon refers primarily to semi-automatic firearms that possess certain cosmetic features of an assault rifle that is fully automatic." These features include rifles with a folding or telescoping stock, pistol grip, bayonet mount, flash suppressor, grenade launcher mount, ex.ex.

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Our culture causes mass murderers to like assault weapons, from things like seeing assault weapons being used in movies to kill large numbers of people, ex.ex.

And assault weapons are not needed by regular Americans. For neighborhood home defense using a rifle is dangerous because the bullet travels very far, so a shotgun or pistol is a better choice. And specialized hunting rifles are better for hunting than assault weapons are.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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A assault weapon is the kind of weapon used in the Columbine shootings, Sandy Hook Elementary school shootings, beltway sniper shootings, aurora movie theater shootings, ex.ex. Assault weapons are the weapon of choice of most mass murderers.
Hmmm...which of these are "assault weapons?"

http://acolumbinesite.com/weapon.html
Quote:
Eric's Weapons
Eric's carbine rifle
Hi-Point model 995 carbine rifle

Eric's sawed-off shotgun
Sawed-off pump-action Savage-Springfield 67H shotgun
Dylan's Weapons
Dylan's TEC-DC9
TEC-DC9 9-mm semi-automatic handgun

Dylan's double-barrel shotgun
Double-barrel Savage 311-D sawed-off shotgun
Carried by Both
Eric and Dylan's knives
A variety of knives

Bombs, bombs, and more bombs.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
A assault weapon is the kind of weapon used in the Columbine shootings, Sandy Hook Elementary school shootings, beltway sniper shootings, aurora movie theater shootings, ex.ex. Assault weapons are the weapon of choice of most mass murderers.

"The term assault weapon refers primarily to semi-automatic firearms that possess certain cosmetic features of an assault rifle that is fully automatic." These features include rifles with a folding or telescoping stock, pistol grip, bayonet mount, flash suppressor, grenade launcher mount, ex.ex.

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Our culture causes mass murderers to like assault weapons, from things like seeing assault weapons being used in movies to kill large numbers of people, ex.ex.

And assault weapons are not needed by regular Americans. For neighborhood home defense using a rifle is dangerous because the bullet travels very far, so a shotgun or pistol is a better choice. And specialized hunting rifles are better for hunting than assault weapons are.
Thank you for the laugh , it was great. See, i know about guns and i know you have no clue about them from what you just posted. Sipping the kool aid much i see huh? Your response doesnt make sense and neither is it facts. You sound too much like Dianne Feinstein.

Those weapons used are not assault weapons, thats a made up term or word. If i throw a spoon at you and it causes injury or assault to you , then a spoon is now considered an assault weapon on this idea correct?

So why are handguns not banned since a lot of them resemble a 1911 ? Many guns have pistol grips on them such as handguns , shotguns , and rifles. These so called features you list do not impact the guns ability on damage. I have never seen anyone carry a grenade launcher.

Please dont quote me with nonsense bull**** , i was asking YOU to tell me personally , not copy and paste liberal propaganda.
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