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Denying reality doesn't add to your credibility - rather the opposite.
A compromise is where 2 parties agree on the terms. No Republican voted for this Fiasco.
It was rammed through by only 1 party with no discussion to compromise.
Why's that? Its obviously something that affects MILLIONS it should be taken seriously.
It impacts everybody not just the minimum wage earner. You can't raise their wages without raising everyone's wages above them. The mail boy can't make as much as the guy or woman who supervises all of the mail boys. Then when all of the supervisors get raises then their boss gets a raise, too. Then some people will be laid off across the board and guess what? The minimum wage earner will still be the minimum wage earner and unemployment will go up again.
Oh yeah, and while the jokers in Congress are at it, legalizing millions of illegals means they aren't going to settle for low wage jobs anymore, either.
A compromise is where 2 parties agree on the terms.
A compromise offered is when one party or the other proposes something other than what they want, something that has elements of both what they want and what the other side wants, something that is between the two opposing positions.
Proposing, as the Democrats did with ACA, something close to what the other side proposed earlier, was more than a compromise offer - it was almost a capitulation. But the deceit of the right-wing runs so deep that they cannot even grant that practical capitulation as compromise.
So you are in robust company with your denial of reality.
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You fail.
You're comment is childish. I guess that gives us a good idea of the value of your contributions.
A compromise offered is when one party or the other proposes something other than what they want, something that has elements of both what they want and what the other side wants, something that is between the two opposing positions.
Proposing, as the Democrats did with ACA, something close to what the other side proposed earlier, was more than a compromise offer - it was almost a capitulation. But the deceit of the right-wing runs so deep that they cannot even grant that practical capitulation as compromise.
Yeah keep telling everybody Repubs had something to do with this disaster. It was a Democrat Bill rammed through by Pulosi and Reid.
How many Repubs voted for ACA ? None. This was not a compromise. Even the majority of the US has never wanted this Bill.
Credit and blame goes squarely on the backs of Democrats. Many are now running away from the Bill.
Yeah keep telling everybody Repubs had something to do with this disaster.
You keep reinforcing the fact that you're ignorant about the actual genesis of ACA. Don't blame me for assuming that you are intelligent and well-versed on the topic you inject yourself into. If you aren't aware of what you're talking about, as it appears is the case, you are probably better off not making that failure so clearly obvious.
ACA - A right-wing plan that helped demonstrate just how childish the right-wing is, by showing that even when they get their way, mostly, they still claim that the Democrats got what they want.
And you conservatives want to gut food stamps at the same time you don't want people to make enough money to live without them. Your idea is as long as families can barely survive its good enough and on with the corporate march.
"And you conservatives want to gut food stamps" The usual "conservatives hate (fill in the blank)s.
As a conservative ,IMO, you don't know a damn thing what conservatives want or think.
How about a top down review of the food stamp program? In case you don't know even the gov't ADMITS there is tens of millions wasted in the program.
The oversight is almost non existent. We constantly read stories where the "stamps" are "abused" such as trading the "stamps" for cash, then the recipient goes and buys booze.
The purpose of the program is to provide FOOD for the children of people who can't afford it on ther own.
Do you think we should allow the buying of booze?
Let's "clean" the program up so we CAN provide for those that actually deserve it.
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"And you conservatives want to gut food stamps" The usual "conservatives hate (fill in the blank)s.
As a conservitive ,IMO, you don't know a damn ting what conservatives want or think.
How about a top down review of the food stamp program? In case you don't know even the gov't ADMITS there is tens of millions wasted in the program.
The oversight is almost non existent. We constantly read stories where the "stamps" are "abused" such as trading the "stamps" for cash, then the recipient goes and buys booze.
The purpose of the program is to provide FOOD for the children of people who can't afford it on ther own.
Do you think we should allow the buying of booze?
Let's "clean" the program up so we CAN provide for those that actually deserve it.
Oversight IS non existent as reported by the USDA.
FNS has no process or method for identifying fraud and neither do states.
This is what the USDA said about FNS:
http://www.usda.gov/oig/webdocs/27002-0011-13.pdf
We also found that FNS has not established processes to identify or estimate the total amount of SNAP fraud occurring nationwide, either by recipients or by retailers. As a result, FNS does not have tools to effectively measure a total SNAP fraud rate over time. FNS cannot estimate a recipient fraud rate because it has not established how States should compile, track, and report fraud in a uniform manner. FNS reports recipient fraud as the number of recipients disqualified each year. This number only includes those recipients actually identified committing fraud and does not estimate the rate of potential fraud. Without a consistent methodology for compiling recipient fraud data, we believe the current method of State reporting would make it difficult for FNS to provide a total recipient fraud rate.
...and then we have a congress-critter crying that he just can't live "decently" on the paltry $147,000 a year that he gets paid by the minimum-wage taxpayers.
IMO, he needs to get out in the real world and try living on $500 per week take-home pay. He might learn something!
Go ahead, raise the minimum wage. Then, we will see exactly what happens; it will take it out of the theoretical realm and place it squarely in the real world, factual realm.
One side or the other will be saying "WELL, we sure didn't see THAT coming!"
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It was a Democrat Bill rammed through by Pulosi and Reid.