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View Poll Results: Would you like to donate some money to Shanesha Taylor?
No, and put her in jail 53 53.00%
No, but don't put her in jail 41 41.00%
Yes, she deserves a handout more than the millions of other jobless folks out there 5 5.00%
Yes I will, as soon as I get a job 1 1.00%
Voters: 100. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-08-2014, 08:07 AM
 
Location: DMV
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She loves her kids and didn't want to have her kids taken from her and she wanted to provide for her kids... she needed a job and has no home or anyone she could trust to take care of her kids... a single mom doing what she can do... I am ashamed of how the police arrested her and anyone who threw stones at her... she is doing everything right and people still criticize her.... what is a person with no money and no job to do? Abandon her kids? Unthinkable...
I definitely sympathize with her situation, but that doesn't absolve her from punishment. Regardless of what she did, it was illegal and it was dangerous, she should be treated like anyone else in that situation. My hope is though that she will be fined and still able to go to work and provide for her kids. I do not believe, based on what I have heard, that throwing her in jail will solve anything.

I think with a situation like this, it exposes a situation that we in this nation have not really considered. How does a woman like this become a productive citizen? It concerns me because I would not want to hear the next woman in a similar situation using this as an excuse to not get a job and staying on welfare. We need to address how women like this can properly handle these situations without abandoning their kids. That is the conversation that I really haven't seen many talk about with this situation. I recognize what she did was wrong, but we also need to think about how we would handle this situation in her position and how difficult these decisions will be.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Aren't there government agencies that provide free daycare for working mothers or those seeking a job? No? Well then why not staff them with people getting a welfare check sitting at home.
TANF required recipients to work at least 20 hours a week to continue to recieve benefits. The CATO Institute learned that 80% of these jobs were funded by some form of direct or indirect municipal, county, state or federal subsidy. Many of these jobs were in child care for other TANF mothers.

Arizona cut their budget for child services by 40%. I don't know what specific programs were cut. It's possible that the safety net that once existed for mothers no longer exists.

Having said this, if I had found myself living with my 6 and 24 month old babies in my car, I would put their best interests first and would have given up custody until I could pull my life together. Anything less, is selfish and has nothing to do with what's best for the children.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:18 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Meh, big deal. If she smothers a few she'll just make more, you can bet on that.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Go to child welfare and ask them to care for them knowing hard questions would be asked?

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Someone should be asking her the hard questions.

Where is the father?
How did she end up living in her car?
Mom looks well fed and there was gas in the tank. Diapers cost. What is the source of funding.
Does she have other children? Where are they?
Does she have a history of drug or alcohol addiction and/or prior convictions?
Does she have marketable skills?
Does she have a plan?
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I dont give a rats ass what the temperature was, you dont leave your babies alone.
Every once in awhile, we agree.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:45 AM
 
Location: DMV
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TANF required recipients to work at least 20 hours a week to continue to recieve benefits. The CATO Institute learned that 80% of these jobs were funded by some form of direct or indirect municipal, county, state or federal subsidy. Many of these jobs were in child care for other TANF mothers.

Arizona cut their budget for child services by 40%. I don't know what specific programs were cut. It's possible that the safety net that once existed for mothers no longer exists.

Having said this, if I had found myself living with my 6 and 24 month old babies in my car, I would put their best interests first and would have given up custody until I could pull my life together. Anything less, is selfish and has nothing to do with what's best for the children.
I think that is a valid and very reasoned way to deal with this situation, but how many people who love their children will actually be willing to give them up and not knowing what kind of situation they will be placed in? From an outsider's perspective, yes, giving the children up makes a ton of sense, but there will always be those who are protective of their children, who think they are the best thing for their kids and that even in the worse situations can do better than someone else. Of course that is likely not true, but it will difficult to get a mother in a situation like this to think otherwise.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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You never leave babies alone in a locked car, period.

I hope she finds employment and that her 2 babies are returned to her when she is in a better situation.
How likely will anyone employ her given her decision to leave her babies in her car?

The time lapse between the initial call to the Police and the mother's return to the car was about 45 minutes. The actual duration of how long these babies were alone in the car has not been disclosed.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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One is for pretty much sure, the other is maybe. If you were concerned about keeping your kids, which of the two choices do you think is the best?
Wanting to keep your kids despite the circumstances seems to have more to do with the mother 's wants than the best interests of the children.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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There is NEVER an excuse to risk the safety of a BABY nor leave them in an unsafe situation.

No matter how much you try to justify it, there isnt justification.
Hell has frozen over and you and I agree on something.
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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No, I'm just pointing out that your solution is no solution at all to someone desperate to keep their family.
That desperation has all to do with the mother's selfishness and nothing to do with the best interests of her children.
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