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More than likely you give people more time and they'll sit in front of the TV that much longer
True, but that's not what I would do if I had more time.
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
What do YOU do on the weekends if you pay everyone else to do your work at home ?
I don't pay anyone to do any work at home, that's money I could be buying stocks with.
But as it stands, I'm at work 9 hours a day plus 30 minute commute each way, and I have a baby and wife who need attention, so some things naturally get cut back. I don't spend as much time making my own wine, I buy more at the store. The size and planning of the garden are restricted by how much time I have. Some of what the garden produces goes to waste since I don't always have time to process it before it goes bad. When I shop for groceries, I buy more groceries at once and make fewer trips, and as a result, I lose out on manager's specials and other sales because I'm not there as often. I lift weights 3x a week at the gym, but cardio only gets done once a week. There was a 2-month stretch where I wasn't working and I lifted 3 days a week and did cardio 3 days a week and I loved it. Working 45 hours a week, going to the gym 6 days a week just isn't practical especially considering the commute there and back.
People keep arguing as if I said that people who work 40 hours a week don't have time to do the things I mentioned. That's not what I said at all, I said they would have more time to do these things with a shorter work week. That should be pretty obvious. It's not like anyone here does all those things to the maximum extent possible. If I worked 0 hours per week I still wouldn't have time to do all the things I would like to do.
In many workplaces these days people have traded the tyranny of the clock for the tyranny of the Deadline. As a senior technologist in a global company my workday was 12 hour days 7 am to 7pm, and working Saturadays and Sundays if a Senior manager needed a report or memo by by Monday 9am after being given the request on the Friday before. In most companies salaried workers are non-union (classed as mamagement) and don't get overtime if you stay after business hours to do a report, a calculation, complete a design or estimate or to get a test done.
In many workplaces these days people have traded the tyranny of the clock for the tyranny of the Deadline. As a senior technologist in a global company my workday was 12 hour days 7 am to 7pm, and working Saturadays and Sundays if a Senior manager needed a report or memo by by Monday 9am after being given the request on the Friday before. In most companies salaried workers are non-union (classed as mamagement) and don't get overtime if you stay after business hours to do a report, a calculation, complete a design or estimate or to get a test done.
So true.
I never been so happy since I decided not to maximize my income. I work at a university now, and am about to get all summer off.
I'm so happy not to be part of that grind anymore. Yes my house is 500 sq ft. smaller, and I don't get to buy a new car every year. For me it is well worth it, but for other people maybe not.
The amount of money that a person makes isn't really a product of how many hours he puts into work; it's a product of what skills he has to trade for the hours that he is at work. An architect makes more than a burger flipper and no matter how many hours that burger flipper works, he won't produce the value that an architect does. Sweden is a high value country. Swedes create more value for the same amount of time at work that a poorer country like Angola could ever hope to produce. If Swedes cut their weekly hours down to 30, that fact won't change.
I think we should adopt a 36 hour work week, 9 hours x 4 days
I know I would not make it. I'm most productive first thing in the morning. By 2:00 PM it's time for that second cup of coffee without which I'd be completely useless.
I see a lot of dislike for the idea, but very little discussion about it. Looking at it I can see:
1. increased productivity for the hours worked
2. lower unemployment
But you do see the other hand that the poorly paid folks would be even worse off, and many might go for 2 30 hr jobs instead of 1 40.....which..lol might put benefit #2 in some risk.
I dunno, I can see both sides of this, and maybe with them doing the experiment we will see real data.
The fact that you would have half of the day to yourself is enough incentive to get the work done faster and better and just stay focused during that time, instead of just being super tired by the end of the day that you don't mind using half of your day at work to do other things.
How many of those six hours will be dicking around on the internet?
I typically work 43-45 hours a week (paid hourly)...I think I probably work 25-30 truly productive hours per week total. Human beings aren't meant to sit at a desk inside and look at a computer screen droning away on redundant work for hours and hours on end. I don't know that it's the government's job to intervene, but it sure would be nice. Americans work more and have less paid vacation days than every other western nation. Is it any surprise that people here are overweight, depressed, bored, etc.?
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