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Old 04-09-2014, 09:42 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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This link doesn't exist.
It was about a Canadian judge who found that a teen killed his good friend because he was taking an ssri.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:47 PM
 
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It was about a Canadian judge who found that a teen killed his good friend because he was taking an ssri.
Oh please, how can you blame it on an SSRI. Anti depressants don't make you psycho.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:51 PM
 
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This guy was able to stab 20 people, imagine if he had a gun, would we still be talking about injuries or would we be talking about deaths ?

flaw in your logic is HUGE.
Why is a gun the only alternative? What if he had dynamite?
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Anti depressants do not cause someone to kill. You have no idea what you are talking about and are targeting those who are already stigmatized because they need this medication. Some of you really need to educate yourselves.
School Shooters & Stabbings Committed by those on Psychiatric Drugs | CCHR International

List of school shootings on antidepressants

Mass Murders And The SSRIs Connection | Health

Every mass shooting over last 20 years has one thing in common... and it's not guns

Yeah Natalie, that stat and lists prove other wise...Sorry for using facts and speaking the truth..
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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As many as 20 injured in stabbings at Pennsylvania school, 1 arrested | 6abc.com

OK, this is for all those who are against guns....

20 injured?????

It seems as if all those who would like to outlaw guns, will still refuse to understand or see past their own stubborness...

Discussion?
This has nothing to do with guns. If a gun was involved there would be many deaths above the 20 something people injured. Conservatives are real good at knocking down straw men...
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Why is a gun the only alternative? What if he had dynamite?
Or Molotov Cocktails, or a car filled with Fertilizer and Diesel Fuel?
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Oh please, how can you blame it on an SSRI. Anti depressants don't make you psycho.
Natalie, these pills make people do very horrific things, and they same to all have one thing in common, they all took the same kind of meds...You can lie to yourselves you can not lie to truth..
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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You don't know what you are talking about either. This dialogue hurts many who need anti depressants to live a normal life. Most take it because they have a chemical imbalance. Anti depressants don't cause someone to kill. Please stop spreading this because it hurts innocent people who take this medication.
Why not have this dialogue? Do you want people to take medication they could hurt them, or lead them to hurting Innocent people?
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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This link doesn't exist.
The list of people taking these pills and murdering people really does prove this..
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Preamble : I don't know anything about guns/semi auto/auto/etc so I'll use the general term "gun"



I haven't read the thread yet appart from the OP so my apologies if someone already said the same thing...

I never understood that point : "if there are mass murders/robberies/etc with knives or other weapons, it means that guns aren't a threat or at the same level of threat as the others"

No, what it means is when a person is DETERMINED to kill, they will find a way. If that one person had had a gun, they would have killed many more. Or maybe, that person wanted to feel blood... You can't fight the crazies (well, yes, one could try, but a whole other argument and debate).

Think how many suicides and accidents would have been/could be avoided if someone didn't have a gun at hand:

Suicide by knife is very very hard to do and gives you the time to think (most suicide attempts are calls for help), having a gun at hand when you feel depressed makes it easier to act on an impulse.

Deathly accidents by knives are nearly never intended and (I guess) very rarely happen. Accidents with guns? there are so MANY, children killing their sibblings by accident even!

How can one compare?


Another thing (maybe worth mentioning) is that gun-law-regulated countries don't have that many less guns per person (except for your "crazy states", but they do have less murders. Because guns (rifles I guess, the ones you use to hunt) are not glorified as your means of defense, they serve a purpose, they don't feed a fear that might make people over-react.

Statistically, a gun has a lot more chances of killing you in a bout of depression or a loved one in an accident than it has a chance of defending you in an attack.


Most important thing : my best to the families and I hope one day, part of your country will see reason about weapons. Anyone only needs to look at the statistics.
That is a lie

GunCite - Gun Control Web Site: A Gun in the Home

At least you are honest about not know what you talk about...
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