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What are you trying to say? It was a bad thing people found out about it? Campaign contributions should be private? How dare someone read the paper and say "Hey, that guy runs Mozilla now..." and spread that information to others? Are you trying to say that a donation of cash to a PAC should be more protected speech than literally saying you support the group's ideals?
What are you trying to say? It was a bad thing people found out about it? Campaign contributions should be private? How dare someone read the paper and say "Hey, that guy runs Mozilla now..." and spread that information to others? Are you trying to say that a donation of cash to a PAC should be more protected speech than literally saying you support the group's ideals?
Should your donation to a political cause be published in the local newspaper?
Do you think that publishing them in the local paper could cause someone harm? That, for instance, if someone lived in rural Oklahoma, and it got out that they donated to Obama's campaign, that that person could lose his job, or have his home vandalized, or some other harm from someone disgruntled and opposed to Obama?
Do you think people would stop donating if they thought their neighbors and employer would find out about donations that weren't popular where they lived?
What are you trying to say? It was a bad thing people found out about it? Campaign contributions should be private? How dare someone read the paper and say "Hey, that guy runs Mozilla now..." and spread that information to others? Are you trying to say that a donation of cash to a PAC should be more protected speech than literally saying you support the group's ideals?
If I give $1000 to an American socialist party it is the same as saying I support the American socialist party. Until campaign contributions are sealed and confidential that will remain the case. The second I write that check, I have made my speech. You aren't prevented from giving to the cause, but you also aren't protected from people objecting to it either.
But social pressure can be used to discourage you from giving to that cause. That's why we have secret ballots in this country. When you cast your vote in the voting booth, no one else gets to know how you voted. Privacy is necessary for someone to really exercise freedom, isn't it?
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But social pressure can be used to discourage you from giving to that cause. That's why we have secret ballots in this country. When you cast your vote in the voting booth, no one else gets to know how you voted. Privacy is necessary for someone to really exercise freedom, isn't it?
They don't want anyone who doesn't fully agree with them to have the right to exercise free speech.
Conservatives - at least in this case - think corporations should not have the right to decide who does and does not get to work for them.
And what about groups like the so-called "One Million Moms" who are announcing boycotts right and left because they don't like certain forms of speech that they think are "indecent"? Aren't they guilty of "intimidation" too?
Conservatives - at least in this case - think corporations should not have the right to decide who does and does not get to work for them.
And what about groups like the so-called "One Million Moms" who are announcing boycotts right and left because they don't like certain forms of speech that they think are "indecent"? Aren't they guilty of "intimidation" too?
boycotting a product is not intimidation. Angry mobs putting pressure on your company to fire you is.
Conservatives - at least in this case - think corporations should not have the right to decide who does and does not get to work for them.
And what about groups like the so-called "One Million Moms" who are announcing boycotts right and left because they don't like certain forms of speech that they think are "indecent"? Aren't they guilty of "intimidation" too?
What did the corporation do? Show us what they did to to not hire gays?
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