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Old 04-09-2014, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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April 9th, 1914 - Nine armed U.S. Navy sailors are arrested for being in an off-limits area in Tampico, Mexico. Although the sailors are released within 24 hours, with an informal apology, the Mexicans refused to raise the U.S. flag with a 21-gun salute as demanded by the U.S. Navy commander. President Wilson deploys Navy and Marine troops ahead of Congressional approval, in an operation that lasts over six months, killing 22 U.S. servicemembers, and at least 150 Mexicans.

It flippantly has been the single U.S. military action to date that awarded the most Medals of Honor (56) - The military's highest honor. One of those bestowed refused to wear the medal, claiming he had done nothing heroic. 100 years really isn't that long of time - What do you think of the ("heroic") actions of the United States, especially contrasted in the irony of modern relations with Mexico?
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:10 PM
 
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I think that your statement is troll bate.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:15 PM
 
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It's gross arrogant American exceptionism.

Wasn't Wilson a liberal?
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:27 PM
 
Location: OKC
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April 9th, 1914 - Nine armed U.S. Navy sailors are arrested for being in an off-limits area in Tampico, Mexico. Although the sailors are released within 24 hours, with an informal apology, the Mexicans refused to raise the U.S. flag with a 21-gun salute as demanded by the U.S. Navy commander. President Wilson deploys Navy and Marine troops ahead of Congressional approval, in an operation that lasts over six months, killing 22 U.S. servicemembers, and at least 150 Mexicans.

It flippantly has been the single U.S. military action to date that awarded the most Medals of Honor (56) - The military's highest honor. One of those bestowed refused to wear the medal, claiming he had done nothing heroic. 100 years really isn't that long of time - What do you think of the ("heroic") actions of the United States, especially contrasted in the irony of modern relations with Mexico?
100 years isn't a long time?
That was before penicillin was discovered.


By the way, I noticed you didn't post the rest of the Wiki explanation for the event. The coup that had taken place, the revolutionary war, etc.

Nope.

According to you it was all about a few drunk sailors, which I find unlikely.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I did briefly see this response:

"Actually the United States occupation of Veracruz was a response to the Tampico Affair"

What were we responding to with the six month "occupation" of part of another country?

(You are correct that I quoted the the resulting occupation of Veracruz, but it is the anniversary of the initial "Tampico Affair")
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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100 years isn't a long time?
That was before penicillin was discovered...
Come on, I have a Grandmother almost that old...

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...By the way, I noticed you didn't post the rest of the Wiki explanation for the event. The coup that had taken place, the revolutionary war, etc.

Nope.

According to you it was all about a few drunk sailors, which I find unlikely.
And was there U.S. involvement in that coup, with Huerta being installed as President, and his predecessor being killed? I didn't say anything about the sailors being "drunk", they were actually on mission. I want to debate the background, in hindsight do you want your country doing this behavior that you won't hear out of an American history schoolbook?
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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100 years isn't a long time?
That was before penicillin was discovered.
Harrier's knows a 104 year old woman.

No - it isn't all that long ago.

Harrier was born 62 years after 1914.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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It's gross arrogant American exceptionism.

Wasn't Wilson a liberal?
Wilson was a progressive. A word that Hilllary prefers.


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Old 04-09-2014, 10:02 PM
 
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Come on, I have a Grandmother almost that old...



And was there U.S. involvement in that coup, with Huerta being installed as President, and his predecessor being killed? I didn't say anything about the sailors being "drunk", they were actually on mission. I want to debate the background, in hindsight do you want your country doing this behavior that you won't hear out of an American history schoolbook?
Ok, well I'm afraid I think the incident was a very small part of both American and Mexican history, and just one small part of the Mexican civil war. For that reason, I never bothered to study the incident other than it looks to me like the occupation had very little to do with some sailors being arrested, and more about the wider engagement.

So hopefully someone will come along that can talk with you more about the incident later.
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Old 04-10-2014, 06:07 AM
 
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I think that your statement is troll bate.
bait, but you're right. Why would anyone join our military and stay for over 20 years with such obvious contempt for U.S. military actions? 1914? Gee, could we go back any further?
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