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Old 04-13-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by FlamencoFreak View Post
Please. That was so ignorant! However, that's typical of leftists. They think they are the mainstream.
You mean this post? It was right on the money and is worth repeating.

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Originally Posted by TriMT7


Forget it.

You are dealing with an
unhinged contingent of City-Data posters who find themselves among a rapidly
shrinking minority of like-minded people who lack both nuance and critical
thinking skills. They are losing on this issue and like a mangy stray dog nobody
wants anymore that finds itself trapped in a corner they are lashing out
irrationally.

Things you will never be able to convince them of,
because their right wing blogs and blow hard radio hosts aren't smart enough to
explain it to them:

1) They can't see the difference between directly
contributing to Prop 8 (or other such organizations whose sole purpose of
existence is to hurt gay families) and contributing to a politician who has
positions on dozens of issues. The OKCupid founder actually had a succinct
response to such a charge when right wingers thought it was poignant to point
out he gave money to a guy who tangentially also happened to be anti gay
marriage.


2) They can't fathom that the Eich debacle was NOT "gay
led" and was instead initiated by a heterosexual of a predominantly heterosexual
dating site. None of the typical gay activists or organizations spearheaded this
thing. They just cannot. It HAS to be the gay mafia, because how could a
heterosexual ever fight for gays? If heterosexuals are now browbeating their
anti-gay counterparts, then they truly are lost.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:20 AM
 
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See, even Ceist agrees that what happened at Mozilla was a "debacle." We have all made progress.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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The reason the term McCarthyism even exist is because it means the individual attacks people with no evidence. by your own link, there is evidence.
No, it doesn't. McCarthyism is "unfair accusation or investigation of people: the practice of using unsubstantiated accusations or unfair methods of investigation to discredit people"

This is a case of liberals wanting to deny employment to someone whose political views do not coincide with their own.

What someone's views are on gay marriage have absolutely nothing to do with their competence to run a software company.

It absolutely falls under the category of McCarthyism. Someone's political contributions 8 years ago are not supposed to be a fireable offense. It's clearly a case of inappropriate investigation. Doesn't matter whether the evidence is true or not, when the evidence itself isn't a valid cause for termination of someone's employment. Unless the evidence showed the man personally discriminated against homosexual people at his place of employment, what political organizations he chooses to contribute to is irrelevant to his job performance.
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Old 04-13-2014, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Giving money to prop 8, a bill with ONE purpose, to deny gays marriage rights.

VS

Giving money to candidates that hold many positions on many different subjects.

Not the same thing. If people only donated to candidates that matched their beliefs on every single political point, no one would ever donate to any political candidate.

Heterosexuals had a right to marry?

Could a heterosexual father and daughter marry since they were both heterosexuals?

Could a heterosexual adult and heterosexual 14-yr-old marry?

Could a heterosexual female marry another heterosexual female?

An unrelated adult male homosexual in California couldn't marry an adult female because homosexuals were not allowed to marry?

Bottom line: you can't find good reasons to change the definition of marriage so you spend all your time and effort trying to silence your political opponents and misrepresent the facts.
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Old 04-13-2014, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by FlamencoFreak View Post
Well, until recently a person couldn't legally marry someone of the same sex, either, so why do you think marrying your dog is so far fetched?
Moderator cut: snipCan the Dog stand before witnesses and avow their love and devotion to a Human in a language mutually understood by said witnesses?

Again I ask how would allowing same-sex marriage affect YOUR life in the least?

It seems the anti group are the only ones bringing up marrying animals...

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Old 04-13-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It's funny how, whenever you lose an argument, you just say "it's extremely insulting and derogatory to gay and lesbian people to compare ..."
You don't think it is derogatory to compare same-sex marriage with marrying a Dog? REALLY ???
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Heterosexuals had a right to marry?

Could a heterosexual father and daughter marry since they were both heterosexuals?

Could a heterosexual adult and heterosexual 14-yr-old marry?

Could a heterosexual female marry another heterosexual female?

An unrelated adult male homosexual in California couldn't marry an adult female because homosexuals were not allowed to marry?

Bottom line: you can't find good reasons to change the definition of marriage so you spend all your time and effort trying to silence your political opponents and misrepresent the facts.
You can't see why your list has NOTHING to do with same sex marriage can you?

Homosexuals have ALWAYS been allowed to get married, it's time they are allowed to marry the person they really want to marry.

The rest of your list is too silly to comment on.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
Heterosexuals had a right to marry?

Could a heterosexual father and daughter marry since they were both heterosexuals?

Could a heterosexual adult and heterosexual 14-yr-old marry?

Could a heterosexual female marry another heterosexual female?

An unrelated adult male homosexual in California couldn't marry an adult female because homosexuals were not allowed to marry?

Bottom line: you can't find good reasons to change the definition of marriage so you spend all your time and effort trying to silence your political opponents and misrepresent the facts.
In California HOMOSEXUALS had the right to marry from the time prop22 fell until prop 8 was enacted.

Blood relations, and children do not fall under the gender restriction.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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In California HOMOSEXUALS had the right to marry from the time prop22 fell until prop 8 was enacted.
Wow, it's cool how their right just magically appeared, huh? I guess that's how rights work.

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Blood relations, and children do not fall under the gender restriction.
Huh, that's interesting. Why can't blood relations or children marry? Or multiple people, for that matter?
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Wow, it's cool how their right just magically appeared, huh? I guess that's how rights work.



Huh, that's interesting. Why can't blood relations or children marry? Or multiple people, for that matter?
If something is not illegal, it is legal. There are laws against marrying children, and blood relatives. Please show me the law that says a male can not marry a male post prop 22 and pre prop 8.
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