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View Poll Results: Are these valid questions that should be answered?
Yes, there are valid questions that need to be answered 129 90.85%
No, these questions are not valid OR I can't have these questions answered for partisan reasons 13 9.15%
Voters: 142. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-26-2014, 03:03 AM
 
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It is because 87% of Americans think they are a bunch of partisan hacks who are doing nothing but play partisan theatre. I am sure they are happy you are still in the 13% cheering them on. I wish they'd purge both sides, and replace them with people who work on improving the nation as opposed to game playing.


There are those of the right leaning trying to do this.
I see no such action on the left side of things.

Are they happy with the status quo?
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Congress needs to force the IRS to follow the Law as written not how it was interpeted (by GOP lawyer writing Regs.) in 1959.
All 501(c)(4) groups from 1959 to current time need to reapply for the favorable tax status.

But house Republicans need something to raise money on so it will have to wait for the IRS change to occur in about 12 months
This is what they should be addressing, removing political organizations from tax free status, they can continue on with their work but not tax free. Rather than going back to the 1959 regulation they are criticizing the IRS for attempting to enforce a law with rather large loopholes.
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Actually I am not a Dem, I am just not interested in hearing the same thing a hundred times over.
Apparently not even if it takes 101 times to get to the truth.
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:02 AM
 
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There is NO PROOF that Obama or ANYONE in the White House had ANYTHING to do with this.

NO PROOF.

If you want Lerner's head, OK. You might get it. If you do, congratulations. As of now, that is all you or Issa will get.
This investigation isn't really about finding proof against anyone in the White House, though I believe there's some connection. These guys know they're not going to find proof of that. But even if Obama had nothing to do with it and the IRS employees decided to target on their own because they were worried about Tea Party small government values, then it's still wrong.

It's funny though how all these "rogue" government workers suddenly do things that help this president, like the guy in the tax office who released documents about "Joe the Plumber" illegally, or these "rogue" agents in Cincinatti (plus Lerner and possibly the IRS counsel appointed by the President) going after the Tea Party groups and the True the Vote group. The IRS admitting to handing over donor lists of National Organization for Marriage (NOM) to the Human Rights Campaign (an advocate for same sex marriage), who then listed those donors on it's website for harassment.

Now it turns out that Lois Lerner "accidentally" received an email invitation to Sen. Charles Grassley from some event planner that wanted to pay for his wife to attend and she was all for auditing him based on an invitation he never even received nor accepted. I don't buy that story at all. Who accidentally sends an invitation meant for a U.S. Senator to some IRS agent no one had ever heard of at the time? Did they have similar email addresses? Highly doubtful. Something very fishy about that story in my mind.
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:06 AM
 
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This is what they should be addressing, removing political organizations from tax free status, they can continue on with their work but not tax free. Rather than going back to the 1959 regulation they are criticizing the IRS for attempting to enforce a law with rather large loopholes.
Regardless of whether the law isn't to your liking, the fact of the matter is that liberal groups doing similar things were NOT subjected to the same level of scrutiny, and ALL of them got tax exempt status months or years before these conservative groups. Don't fall for the line that some liberal groups got the same scrutiny, because it's BS. They did not!
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:09 AM
 
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There are those of the right leaning trying to do this.
I see no such action on the left side of things.

Are they happy with the status quo?
Yeah, and what do those on the right side get for it? Extra scrutiny from the IRS and harassment of donors. Kind of weird how that happens, huh?
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:12 AM
 
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This is what they should be addressing, removing political organizations from tax free status, they can continue on with their work but not tax free. Rather than going back to the 1959 regulation they are criticizing the IRS for attempting to enforce a law with rather large loopholes.
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Regardless of whether the law isn't to your liking, the fact of the matter is that liberal groups doing similar things were NOT subjected to the same level of scrutiny, and ALL of them got tax exempt status months or years before these conservative groups. Don't fall for the line that some liberal groups got the same scrutiny, because it's BS. They did not!
Goodnight, knows this. He knows it is about unfair and illegal practices against one political group to gain a political advantage for another. He knows it is about applying the rules equally to all.

However, he is a good Obamabot sheep and the facts aren't with him, so he must spin and distort to save Obama's tarnished reputation.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:24 AM
 
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IRS Prematurely 'RETIRED' Data Storage Devices | The Daily Caller

The IRS did not follow protocol and inspect Lerner's back up tape before they erased it.

The IRS also filed forms that certain data storage devices involved in the scandal were no longer working and had already been destroyed - despite them still being in use.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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This is what they should be addressing, removing political organizations from tax free status, they can continue on with their work but not tax free. Rather than going back to the 1959 regulation they are criticizing the IRS for attempting to enforce a law with rather large loopholes.
That's like saying don't arrest and prosecute the guy caught robbing the bank, instead tighten bank security.
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:05 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Goodnight, knows this. He knows it is about unfair and illegal practices against one political group to gain a political advantage for another. He knows it is about applying the rules equally to all.

However, he is a good Obamabot sheep and the facts aren't with him, so he must spin and distort to save Obama's tarnished reputation.
Great post, and as usual, spot on. The facts are there, any one who does not see them, just chooses to turn their head the other way. Power for the course.

Obama and his robots, do not believe in applying rules to all. It is rules base on do you agree with me.
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