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Repeal and replace with single payer, it is the only option to fully satisfy everyone who wants the government out of the insurance market, pre-existing conditions covered, small business can start without having to worry about plans, business can expand without paying for healthcare and no tax for not being able to get a plan. It works in Europe and Canada.
Repeal and replace with single payer, it is the only option to fully satisfy everyone who wants the government out of the insurance market, pre-existing conditions covered, small business can start without having to worry about plans, business can expand without paying for healthcare and no tax for not being able to get a plan. It works in Europe and Canada.
Um, you realize that when most people say "single payer," they actually mean "the government," right? Although, technically, you're right. It should be "single payer" as in "you pay for yourself."
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If everyone would pay the same I would agree.
Why would everyone pay the same? That would be silly.
ACA is front loaded with goodies so people will like it now.
We will just have to wait five years and see how this plays out.
The only real goodies that I know about are lifting the lifetime cap and lifting pre-existing conditions. The other stuff like a free colonoscopy at age 60 or one wellness check really doesnt add much. The pregnancy benefit could cost more than expected but that remains to be seen. One of the big flaws of the ACA is the penalites are not that great for going without insurance. If you get cancer, congestive heart failure etc. Just wait for the next open enrollment. The Republican plan from Coburn-Burr would make someone trying to get back in pay a lot more in premiums. In a way you could call the ACA a very Republican friendly plan. Republicans who dont like the ACA can stay outside it and then if they feel the need enroll during an open enrollment period.
I just want my old insurance back! It cost them approx $250 per month for me because of how good of physical shape I am in and have no serious conditions.
If they stuck it to me this bad, what must it be like for people who are married and have a bunch of kids? What about poor health and serious medical conditions? Even something like say diabetes is a major concern now, let alone the 400 pounder who gets winded getting out of their car.
Um, you realize that when most people say "single payer," they actually mean "the government," right? Although, technically, you're right. It should be "single payer" as in "you pay for yourself."
Why would everyone pay the same? That would be silly.
I know.....that is why it won't work.
I like the idea of I will pay for my insurance and you pay for yours.
So we did not need to mandate coverage to ensure huge profits for insurance companies?
I am confused, did Obama just put that in for quid pro quo for the huge campaign contributions by insurance companies? Say it ain't so...
I'm not a huge fan of the way the mandate was handled, although I agree that you've somehow gotta get rid of the free riders.
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Besides, I have never heard of a single issue that some liberal did not think could be made better by some kind of government regulation. That is why we currently have so many regulations they would fill airplane hangers and are completely impossible for any person much less a layman to understand or be in compliance with, which makes every single person in the US a criminal for being out of compliance with government regulations.
I tend to agree. Smaller government and fewer regulations is a good thing.
However, that's not the problem when it comes to getting rid of the pre-existing condition issue. That's simply an actuarial adjustment that insurance companies make all the time.
However, that's not the problem when it comes to getting rid of the pre-existing condition issue. That's simply an actuarial adjustment that insurance companies make all the time.
Huh, it's just an actuarial adjustment? Fascinating!
I just want my old insurance back! It cost them approx $250 per month for me because of how good of physical shape I am in and have no serious conditions.
If they stuck it to me this bad, what must it be like for people who are married and have a bunch of kids? What about poor health and serious medical conditions? Even something like say diabetes is a major concern now, let alone the 400 pounder who gets winded getting out of their car.
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What happens if you get cancer or get smashed by some yahoo with no insurance?
One of my buddies, who everybody thought was healthy as a horse, came over to work on my car one day and started feeling sick. Three days later they diagnosed him colon cancer. Two major operations, a year of chemo and radiation, etc. He was only 39.
NOBODY is bullet proof and it's foolish to think you can't get zapped out of the blue with a major medical issue. It happens to tens of thousands of people every single day.
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