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Old 04-25-2014, 08:02 PM
 
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Isn't that the same thing that Nevada rancher said? Where are all the hand wringers that called out Mr. Bundy for the same thing?
The difference is,everyone KNOWS that Pastor Manning is a joke and that he get's paid to spout a bunch of white supremacist rhetoric about Black people so that white supremacists can hide their racism and post videos of him saying their words.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:30 PM
 
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So if you have a better grasp of what they were saying,well maybe you can educate ME.. If social security taxes did not exist before 1935,why did the United States create SS and in it's inception at the very beginning deliberately exclude Black Americans?

Was it systematic racism, which is the most LOGICAL answer because at the time there were literally SIGNS all around the US that excluded Black people from many forms of activity. (such as No Blacks..No Coloreds,etc)...So is it really a stretch that yet ANOTHER program was designed to exclude Blacks?
Or is that too far fetched?
Are you sure it was just "Black" people who were left out in the cold when SS was started? It was well known that MANY groups of Americans including what would be called "anglo white" in 2014 were dumped on 80 years ago like Jews, Japanese, Chinese, Indians, dark skin "Hispanics" and the Irish and Italians as well. Sheesh!
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:46 PM
 
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Are you sure it was just "Black" people who were left out in the cold when SS was started? It was well known that MANY groups of Americans including what would be called "anglo white" in 2014 were dumped on 80 years ago like Jews, Japanese, Chinese, Indians, dark skin "Hispanics" and the Irish and Italians as well. Sheesh!
And all many of the people you named had to do was CHANGE THEIR LAST NAMES to something that sounded more "anglo",so they were able to hide their real ethnic backgrounds. (Blacks never had that option). Also these groups were all reclassified as "white" by the 1940's,so they were able to cash in on those benefits that Blacks were systematically and legally deprived of for decades ...But Blacks are told to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps".
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:18 PM
 
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No need. You claimed Blacks contributed to SS and were subsequently denied benefits.
You do need to reread my posts, because I never said that at all.
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Old 04-25-2014, 11:57 PM
 
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Enslaved until 1965? BS.
Typo. I meant 1865.
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:01 AM
 
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Even if Pastor Manning might be saying this stuff because he's "paid to do it", I am going to call this what it is. Saying that crap basically assumes "Blacks can't live in society with freedom". It makes the assumption of "Blacks don't know what is best for themselves and require a dictatorial hand in order to get right". That is basically what all of this rhetoric is saying. I find it the antithesis to what this nation is suppose to be about. Normally, it is suppose to be about freedom. However, when it comes to Blacks, there is rhetoric out there to the effect of "Blacks can't have freedom". It is sad and disturbing rhetoric. However, it is no surprise to me. It has been the same rhetoric from the early days.
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:13 AM
 
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Even if Pastor Manning might be saying this stuff because he's "paid to do it", I am going to call this what it is. Saying that crap basically assumes "Blacks can't live in society with freedom". It makes the assumption of "Blacks don't know what is best for themselves and require a dictatorial hand in order to get right". That is basically what all of this rhetoric is saying. I find it the antithesis to what this nation is suppose to be about. Normally, it is suppose to be about freedom. However, when it comes to Blacks, there is rhetoric out there to the effect of "Blacks can't have freedom". It is sad and disturbing rhetoric. However, it is no surprise to me. It has been the same rhetoric from the early days.
The rhetoric about "blacks not having freedom" is because, this country has consistently created laws and public policies that has and continues to deny Blacks certain freedoms..Before 1965,this country was very BLATANT about denying these freedoms for Blacks
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:20 AM
 
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The rhetoric about "blacks not having freedom" is because, this country has consistently created laws and public policies that has and continues to deny Blacks certain freedoms..Before 1965,this country was very BLATANT about denying these freedoms for Blacks
Like I said before, it is nothing new. The difference between now and back is that the rhetoric is a bit different, but for the most part, the message is not that different.
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Old 04-26-2014, 05:09 AM
 
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Now its the FICA taxes? LOL...But you said they were excluded because of SS taxes,remember when you said that?
FICA taxes ARE SS taxes. FICA means "Federal Insurance Contributions Act".
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Old 04-26-2014, 06:30 AM
 
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Why then when there was nothing to pay before 1935,when the government started ss,whites got benefits and blacks did not..
Anyone who paid into the system got benefits. There is not one single case of a Black person making the required contributions to SS and then being denied SS benefits.
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