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Old 11-07-2014, 07:56 AM
 
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i think blacks are worth today that they was 30 years ago, i think all the hate age and racist comments from the democratic obama partys had made people aware, and are afraid to say anything. I also believe most of the problems in the black community has been brought on by the black community themselves. instead of pulling them selves up, that had lower to the bottom with obama money.

Man quit the crap, Obama has nothing to do with it. Geez!!!!!! That shows your own ignorance to make such a statement.

Choices people Make (this means at a higher level, as well as the lower level) and sitauation cast upon people which alters how they choose, makes it much to do with many things. When the 1980's hit, much changed, but actually the change was in motion by 1976 by the time of the disco craze, people got into "party mentality" and being cool, and this flowed over into the drug culture of the 1980's.

When the dumping of Cocaine was engaged in the early 1980's as a way to raise money to fight the Contra-Sandinista War in Centeral America. This changed the landscape, the social and civic trajectory, as well as the household, the family unit and the individual. It impacted a nation, without any city being left untouched, in many
ways it touched nearly every family in America. Those who had the means to recover did, those who did not have such means were impacted severely.

This is some of what happens when you have a system that concerns itself with a Top>down agenda, rather than a Bottom >Up agenda. The poor gets sacrified in ways of great challenge, to support a Top>down agenda. Unfortunately in this case, it was war efforts unsanctioned by congress, engaged by alternative means, fueling a spiraling down of the lower economic and lower civic measured classes: which means poor whites, poor blacks, poor latins and other poor ethnic groups.

The poor sections were trageted for dumping this drug, yes it was dumped in poor white areas, poor black areas and poor latin areas. it was funding even more so by people from wealthy areas, who were the underwriters of many traffickers, some even sponsored the crackhouse, as well as the increase in gang activity; the competition among gangs, was as much a marketing challenges as well as a destructive force that took down many lives; the killing and the "lets get rich quick" took peoples mind and focus from progressing, the violence and conflicts in the community took away much of the people sense of safety and well being. The turn away from education and the explosion of addictions and the saturation of even cheaper drugs devasted these communities worst than if somone had dropped an bomb on them.
To this very day, many those communities have not recovered. Not for the poor whites, not for the poor black, and not for the poor Latin people. It only morphed from one drug to another, from crystal meth, to pills to the combination of pills and what ever drug is made available in these areas. Some are still chasing the external value imagery of the 1970's and some still struggle with the effects of the drug epidemic wich produced crack babies, and a whole host of other problamatic family and children issues, among a massive expanse of squalor.

By the 1990's drug rehabs were setup to clean up most of Middle American who had insurance and could afford to send their family members for clean up, it was then declared a sickness so it did not reflect negative on their life record. Yet, in the poor area's, it produced broken families, homeless people, homeless children, the ravages of Aids and every malady that follows such a cycle of devastations.

It is taking Decades, which translates into "Generations" to wipe this plague out, the problem is it brought with it many things, which continue as a lingering effect within these same communities.

It gave way to the Hip Hop, saggin pants, billigerence in the music, slang talk instead of learning to speak clear and concise english languages. This became a matter in all the poor communities, black, white and latin. Drop out and delinquency raged like a wild fire and to date it has not be vanquished.

Media got in the game and started making TV shows depicting, while at the same time promoting the imagery of 'classroom billigerence and disruption", gang and thug imagery and it became an acceptable publicized image that people emulated what they were presented with. The cycle is still in process.
We see now entertainers, who can actually sing and perform, but they opt to get as naked as possible and as lewd as possible on the stage, further promoting moral decay. while they retreat to their million dollar neighborhoods, and come out and put on the "thug of the moment imagery" for the masses.

Everything has a process; and the process that was put in motion will run its full course.

The way it changes is the people who are giving birth today and those who have kids under the age of 5, must focus different and they must think in terms of social dignity, moral equalivency in conduct and imagery, and progressive learning and functional communication. Introduce them to the advances of tech, not just in gadgetry, but teach them by enrolling in programs at a young age where they can develop technical creativity, critical thinking skills, and functional methods of colloborations.

We are only 30+ yrs past the 1980's Madness. That means a Generation and a Half, because the half were youth and teens, and the other half were newborns. All together if you consider the 1970's
We are talking about 44 Years.
This gives us 6 years to hit the 50 year mark,which is also the mark of 2 Generations. At this 50 year mark we will see changes, by the forces of life they will come into being, the condition of the economy, the transistions in education system, business systems and all such things is going through a transistion on many levels.

The end resulting outcome will be dramatic, but they will be progressive. Because as a nation we have lost the industrial stature and we lost much of the generalized social dignification of being a progressive people.
It is by the force of global challenge, that we move back into a progressive mode.

People fight Common Core, but it is not going away, it is teaching kids from a broad perspective, rather than a one dimensional perspective. They will be less susceptible to be overcome by things which took the wind out of the Sails of American, during the dumping of drugs upon society, and critical and structured dimensional thinking will become more of a norm, than the current one dimensional manner we've been groomed for more than a Century +, has to face and meet the transistion.

Those who challenge that point, please go back and read the history of the Iran-Contra situations, and the South American Drug Trade, when congress would not approve funding for the Reagan mission.
He extracted the funds he wanted by focusing the drug trade in the poor communities. It was his stand to sacrifice the poor and down trodden, for his anti communist battles. If you think that sounds crazy, read the history of the era.

As for the Pastors, some do good for people and some do good for themselves. You can't fix people with a Sunday Morning Sermon, while the rest of the week is filled with some of everything imaginable.

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Old 11-07-2014, 08:03 AM
 
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I have mixed feelings on this. What do you think? As far as material wealth is concerned, we are all better off. But poverty and incarceration still disproportionately affect blacks.


I think many of them have done this to themselves.
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