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There are more people living in welfare now than ever, your response.. its better
and spare me the babble about Reagan being more left than Obama.. my god, how do you think of this ****? Do you work hard to say things this dumb, or does it come naturally?
He is a liberal. It comes naturally.
04-15-2014, 11:11 AM
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Then where are the protests when Obama not only renewed these things, but expanded them?
You mean like this, which took about three seconds to Google?
People protest all the time. Just because you choose to be uninformed doesn't mean it isn't happening.
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Do you think Democrat voters will just vote for Republicans or something over this? Which are all things Republicans tend to be in support of it seems.
This.
Both sides have shown that they're not above completely ignoring civil liberties. However, the right seems to have a lot more staunch defenders of trampling civil liberties and a lot fewer people who actually support them, so why on earth would upset Democrats run into the arms of people who will be even worse?
It was indeed true that conservatives were apologists during the Bush Admin on the matter of spying and torture. That just isn't true on the liberal side that is consistently against domestic spying and torture.
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Oh please. It wasnt that long ago that these very individuals were telling us that we had nothing to hide, then it doesnt matter if the government spies on you.
If you mean by "these very individuals" conservatives, I agree. You didn't find liberals saying that. If you disagree, find quotes.
If you mean by "these very individuals" conservatives, I agree. You didn't find liberals saying that. If you disagree, find quotes.
oh please, liberals non stop ran around proclaiming that if you had nothing to hide, then it doesnt matter what the government does. Used the same argument to insist Romney should release his tax returns..
Haha, they arent liberals, they are carrying signs thanking Edward Snowden.. The left think Edward Snowden was a traiter.
And second, I think I've had more people show up at my 4th of July cookouts..
nice try...
Did you ever hear of an organization called The American Civil Liberties Union (ALCU)? They are a liberal group that has been defending against government civil liberties intrusions for decades.
You really can't just invent your own reality where conservatives are the sole defenders of individual rights.
04-15-2014, 11:29 AM
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Haha, they arent liberals, they are carrying signs thanking Edward Snowden.. The left think Edward Snowden was a traiter.
And second, I think I've had more people show up at my 4th of July cookouts..
nice try...
According to who? You? You're not exactly a credible source for what "the left" - which in your deluded mind is apparently some mass group of people that all think exactly the same things - thinks about anything.
Did you ever hear of an organization called The American Civil Liberties Union (ALCU)? They are a liberal group that has been defending against government civil liberties intrusions for decades.
You really can't just invent your own reality where conservatives are the sole defenders of individual rights.
I'm very well aware of them.. I even know a lawyer who works for them.. That adds what to the dicussion?
Have you ever had chocolate ice cream? That holds the same relevance..
According to who? You? You're not exactly a credible source for what "the left" - which in your deluded mind is apparently some mass group of people that all think exactly the same things - thinks about anything.
So now left wingers werent calling him a trator? Thats weird, I believe we have threads around here arguing that he was from lefties..
We've done this before......being against something but then voting for it does nothing to fix the problem. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Personally I look at the person I am voting for rather than the party they are a part of, it just so happens that most people I vote for are Democrats.
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