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Old 04-17-2014, 07:59 AM
 
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They can for the pay being offered if they change their life style to fit the income.
whether they "can" do it or not isn't the issue.

the issue is whether they're willing to do the work for such low pay.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:02 AM
 
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whether they "can" do it or not isn't the issue.

the issue is whether they're willing to do the work for such low pay.
It wouldn't be so low if you removed those willing to work for sub minimum wage.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:10 AM
 
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A lot of folks here are all about "if we cut off unemployment those people will actually go find work". They have a mistaken belief that the reason our unemployment is what it is is because of unemployment being available. This of course is insane to anyone who spends some time thinking instead of repeating slogans they hear on the radio.

So 538's got a early look at the data (and to be fair they say its too early to be completely conclusive, but its VERY consistent with other research on the topic):
Losing Benefits Isn’t Prodding Unemployed Back to Work | FiveThirtyEight

This of course shouldn't be a surprise, unemployed people do not spontaneously create jobs just because they want one. Many here have pointed at a earlier experiment where a state stopped their unemployment as a great success, and their resulting unemployment rate went down-ignoring the reality that the total employed in the state didn't change.
Who is 538?
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:19 AM
 
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It wouldn't be so low if you removed those willing to work for sub minimum wage.
my point exactly


but don't go blaming that all on "Obummer", or whatever y'all call him -- rural republicans are HUGE supporters of illegal immigration, especially where i live.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:21 AM
 
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my point exactly


but don't go blaming that all on "Obummer", or whatever y'all call him -- rural republicans are HUGE supporters of illegal immigration, especially where i live.
Some are.....I never called him that but it's Obama and Pelosi trying to make the big push to bring even more illegals here and flood the job markets with them.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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Some are.....I never called him that but it's Obama and Pelosi trying to make the big push to bring even more illegals here and flood the job markets with them.
lol ... that's what i'm saying

you blame "Obama and Pelosi" for illegal immigration..

but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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Electricity Price Surged to All-Time Record for March

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Old 04-17-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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lol ... that's what i'm saying

you blame "Obama and Pelosi" for illegal immigration..

but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
I'm throwing stones? How so? I'm interested in learning.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:27 AM
 
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I'm throwing stones? How so? I'm interested in learning.
"throwing stones", in this context, means attacking and/or blaming others.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:28 AM
 
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LOL oh look.. taxing the so called rich didn't help people find work. In fact it did the opposite and now UE has become another form of welfare. Liberal policies failed!
Interesting how the left-wing crowd convinces itself that it's not Obama's administrative, tax or regulatory policies that are killing jobs for these people.

SIX years and $7 trillion in new debt later, and.... hmmm .... nope.... they just can't bring themselves to even ponder that maybe Obama's policies might be to blame, that they are utter failures.
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