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Old 04-20-2014, 02:10 PM
 
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The unemployment rate is now low --- that right there is proof that ending unemployment handouts is helping.
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Old 04-20-2014, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The unemployment rate is now low --- that right there is proof that ending unemployment handouts is helping.
1) Even the official unemployment rate is actually still fairly high.

2) In order to receive unemployment handouts, one must look for work and apply for a certain number of jobs each week. In order to be counted as unemployed, one must be looking for work. When people are no longer eligible for unemployment handouts, they often see no reason to keep looking for work; thus, they may no longer be counted as unemployed, but are still not working. Labor force participation (which includes the unemployed) is way, way down.
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:01 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Does the media expect me to believe the unemployment rate is actually down?? I was born at night not last night
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Old 04-20-2014, 04:08 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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I can tell you have never run a business.

People who invest will sit on their money if they are not comfortable with the business climate.
Actually I have owned three and run five. Sold two and am running the third. The business climate is what you make of it. Up and down markets offer unique opportunities.

Again goes to show how poor your Fox-bubble based judgement is.

No one with a real need to expand-- except some Fox-drooling political hacks-- is waiting to see who the next president is.
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Old 04-20-2014, 05:11 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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you never take what you can get because that's not good for your mental health. You always have to like something about any job you decided to accept or you will be depressed
I've never "liked" any job I've ever had. Because other than providing funding, it's a waste of my time.

We look at things far differently. A job, to me, is sold time. I'm selling my time in exchange for money. It has nothing to do with liking anything. It's a simple barter--you get my time, I get funding to live. Once I accept the transaction and I've sold my time, I either perform the function satisfactorily or I don't. When I'm "working on a job," I am not a person, I am a function. The employer is buying a task. And that is exactly what he gets if I agree to the sale of my time.

Again, it's nothing to do with "liking" anything. You either perform your task or you don't. I always have in any job I've had. From an employer's perspective, he/she doesn't want "rotten lettuce" any more than I would want rotten lettuce if I go to the grocery store and buy a bag of salad. I want what I pay for, just as an employer does. As the "lettuce" bought by my employer, I make sure I'm not "rotten." Liking the task performed has nothing to do with performing the task.

For me, that time I spend once I've sold it is not mine. The experience is not mine. It's not even a part of my life. My life consists of the time I have NOT sold. There is no such thing as being depressed (at least for me) during time that is not mine. That's not what an employer is paying me to do. And as I said, on my own time, time spent at "work" does not exist for me. It's simply a missing X number of hours on any given day.

And don't tell me it doesn't work. I've been doing it that way for 35 years. It works just fine. Other than a job or two I had as an uncaring teenager, I've never gotten anything but positive comments on the functions I have performed during my sold hours. It makes no difference to me what those functions are, because they are not a part of my life anyway--they are hours I have agreed to sell to someone else.
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Old 04-20-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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Actually I have owned three and run five. Sold two and am running the third. The business climate is what you make of it. Up and down markets offer unique opportunities.

Again goes to show how poor your Fox-bubble based judgement is.

No one with a real need to expand-- except some Fox-drooling political hacks-- is waiting to see who the next president is.
They are waiting for the inevitable turning off of the money supply and following crash.
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Old 04-20-2014, 05:21 PM
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I've never "liked" any job I've ever had. Because other than providing funding, it's a waste of my time.

We look at things far differently. A job, to me, is sold time. I'm selling my time in exchange for money. It has nothing to do with liking anything. It's a simple barter--you get my time, I get funding to live. Once I accept the transaction and I've sold my time, I either perform the function satisfactorily or I don't. When I'm "working on a job," I am not a person, I am a function. The employer is buying a task. And that is exactly what he gets if I agree to the sale of my time.

Again, it's nothing to do with "liking" anything. You either perform your task or you don't. I always have in any job I've had. From an employer's perspective, he/she doesn't want "rotten lettuce" any more than I would want rotten lettuce if I go to the grocery store and buy a bag of salad. I want what I pay for, just as an employer does. As the "lettuce" bought by my employer, I make sure I'm not "rotten." Liking the task performed has nothing to do with performing the task.

For me, that time I spend once I've sold it is not mine. The experience is not mine. It's not even a part of my life. My life consists of the time I have NOT sold. There is no such thing as being depressed (at least for me) during time that is not mine. That's not what an employer is paying me to do. And as I said, on my own time, time spent at "work" does not exist for me. It's simply a missing X number of hours on any given day.

And don't tell me it doesn't work. I've been doing it that way for 35 years. It works just fine. Other than a job or two I had as an uncaring teenager, I've never gotten anything but positive comments on the functions I have performed during my sold hours. It makes no difference to me what those functions are, because they are not a part of my life anyway--they are hours I have agreed to sell to someone else.
still good to like something a place you go to 5 days a week whether it's the people, 2 fifteen mins breaks, flex timne, floating holidays, cola raises. I'm sure you can't be going to a place everyday and not liking anything. You could not survive that way
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Old 04-20-2014, 05:53 PM
 
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Its not meant as welfare which is why it ends at some point. There are programs for that already.
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Old 04-20-2014, 05:57 PM
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Its not meant as welfare which is why it ends at some point. There are programs for that already.
6 months is not enough time to find a job when you factor in the length of the hiring process
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