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Old 04-17-2014, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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And what if the authorities supported and mandated his actions?

What if they retaliated against you?

Yeah its a great thing the Jews of Germany reported police brutality, that sure fixed things did it not?

If pleading with evil an tyranny is how you response to evil and tyranny I worry about the people around that might be harmed by your lack of logic and reason.
Did you steal all that straw from a hay bale? If you think your fellow Americans are all evil, then we got a problem.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Shall I find some news articles where police did just that? Trust me, they're out there. In spades.

But I guess that doesn't matter to you, because apparently the police are some kind of demigod to you.
Yeah, I am all for holding the police to the same laws we live by, so false assumption about the demigod part. I personally have no interest in disbanded the police and let any kook with a gun police our streets however way they want.

You can always find articles that back you up, I can find lots of articles on reckless driving but that doesn't mean we should ban driving.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Did you steal all that straw from a hay bale? If you think your fellow Americans are all evil, then we got a problem.
All of them? NO. some of them? with out question.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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All of them? NO. some of them? with out question.
Well then why haven't you shot all those evil people yet if you think they are so evil?
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Well then why haven't you shot all those evil people yet if you think they are so evil?
We do not want to fire the first shot...We believe we can still stop the key from turning that we can use ballots to turn back the insidious growth of the Federal Government. That being said to not take my patience as weakness.



We are not wanting to fire the first shot, but we are more then willing to fire the winning shot.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Behind enemy lines
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Yeah, I am all for holding the police to the same laws we live by, so false assumption about the demigod part. I personally have no interest in disbanded the police and let any kook with a gun police our streets however way they want.

You can always find articles that back you up, I can find lots of articles on reckless driving but that doesn't mean we should ban driving.
Someone using deadly force to stop an unlawful aggressive action by a police officer is holding the police officer accountable. Even if that unlawful aggressive action by the police officer is undertaken during an arrest, the right of self defense doesn't just go away.

The bottom line is this: self defense is an inherent right, and it doesn't matter who one is defending himself against. If ANYONE attempts to harm you, your family, or even a random bystander, you have a right to stop that interference.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:00 PM
 
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Well then why haven't you shot all those evil people yet if you think they are so evil?
In the area where I live the main cash crop is pot.

More than one person from the government has not come out alive.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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We do not want to fire the first shot...We believe we can still stop the key from turning that we can use ballots to turn back the insidious growth of the Federal Government. That being said to not take my patience as weakness.



We are not wanting to fire the first shot, but we are more then willing to fire the winning shot.
Well seeing the government isn't going to be coming at you shooting, you are basically saying you plan on doing nothing besides maybe voting like the rest of us.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Someone using deadly force to stop an unlawful aggressive action by a police officer is holding the police officer accountable. Even if that unlawful aggressive action by the police officer is undertaken during an arrest, the right of self defense doesn't just go away.

The bottom line is this: self defense is an inherent right, and it doesn't matter who one is defending himself against. If ANYONE attempts to harm you, your family, or even a random bystander, you have a right to stop that interference.
Yes, and you are welcome to try and convince a jury that it was in self defense when you murdered a police officer. Hopefully you are able to afford a good lawyer.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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In the area where I live the main cash crop is pot.

More than one person from the government has not come out alive.
I am not surprised, I prefer to make pot legal and tax it the same way we do tobacco. That would end the issue of growing pot illegally.
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