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Old 04-21-2014, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Did you happen to have a real quote from Schlafly?

I have seen a number is made up quotes and several characterizations of Shclafly as a bad person, but that isn't the same as a real quote in context.

I would also like you to post something she said that is factually wrong.
Why would I care what you would like? I'm not your servant.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:19 AM
 
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ROTFLMAO. YOU were the one who said you wouldn't date/marry a woman who made more than you did. Now, you're pretending you said it because of something beside your own feelings of inferiority.

I got a really nice bridge over Chautauqua Lake to sell you -- or any of your like-minded friends -- who are so delusional.
I fail to see how preferring to be the primary breadwinner in a relationship automatically means someone has an inferiority complex. Does that dynamic work both ways? Does a high earning career woman with a lower earning husband who stays home with the kids have feelings of inferiority too?
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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The only "cow manure" that is being spread is "Progressivism," and it is being spread by Democrats.

Schlafly stands as a beacon of truth in the dark world of Democrat progressivism. It is "Progressives" that wish to go back to failed systems of central planning and all powerful government. It is "progressive" policies that are robbing us of Liberty, individualism, and the ability of the average person to create wealth.
Another Rightie who thinks that reciting the Right Wingnut Litany of Stupidity often enough will dumb down enough people to win national elections!

FTR, "the average person" has never been able to create wealth. Never. At least not for himself.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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Why would I care what you would like? I'm not your servant.
I don't get where he is asking you to be his servant, he asked if you could back up your position by asking a question. I guess we know the answer now anyway.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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"the average person" has never been able to create wealth. Never. At least not for himself.
Seriously? Wow!
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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"Another fact is the influence of hypergamy, which means that women typically choose a mate (husband or boyfriend) who earns more than she does. Men don't have the same preference for a higher-earning mate.
That's true.
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While women prefer to HAVE a higher-earning partner, men generally prefer to BE the higher-earning partner in a relationship. This simple but profound difference between the sexes has powerful consequences for the so-called pay gap.
That's also true.
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Suppose the pay gap between men and women were magically eliminated. If that happened, simple arithmetic suggests that half of women would be unable to find what they regard as a suitable mate."

Facts and Fallacies About Paycheck Fairness
That's already happening. It's the "where have all the good men gone?" phenomenon. And it's not just happening here, it's happening in other nations as well. In Japan they call it the "grass eaters".
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Good grief. Women are working to support themselves and their families, the same as men. They're not out in the workforce to "catch a man" who will then take care of them.
That's not what the article said.
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She goes on to claim that women don't work as long or as hard as men, and "place a much higher value on pleasant working conditions: a clean, comfortable, air-conditioned office with congenial co-workers,” and therefore do not deserve equal pay.
That's true. The bureau of labor statistics found that the pay gap between men and women is virtually entirely determined by working condition, not gender. Women prefer jobs with shorter hours, less travel, and less uncomfortable/dangerous working conditions while the more you expect someone to spend time traveling, the more hours you want them to work, and the worse the work environment is the more you have to pay someone to do that work. Women don't get paid less because they are women, women simply choose jobs that pay less. Men working those same jobs also get paid less than other men, while the fewer women who do choose more demanding jobs get paid more than men who don't choose such jobs.
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Nothing like having a woman who is stuck in the 19th century as your rightwing champion for women's rights.
No, you're just yet another example of a politically correct liberal who wants to warp reality to fit their politics instead of taking reality for what it is. Men and women deserve equality under the law, but men and women are not the same socially. Humans have evolved over thousands upon thousands of years. Liberals are big on laughing at the religious right for denying science in evolution, but when it comes to the effects of evolution on human beings it is the liberals who are denialists. Men went out to hunt and women tended the children for millenia. Men evolved to look for women who could bear and care for their children. Women evolved to look for men who could protect and provide for their children. The ones who were most successful at that are the ones who passed their genes along to the next generation, thus reinforcing it over the passage of time. You can't erase all that simply by declaring your new enlightened view is that gender is a social construct. Reality doesn't care about political correctness.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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Women don't get paid less because they are women, women simply choose jobs that pay less. Men working those same jobs also get paid less than other men, while the fewer women who do choose more demanding jobs get paid more than men who don't choose such jobs.
Thank you!
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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No
no stepping stones are needed
read the cdf posts
they can't find hubbies now
the results of 42 million divorces mostly filed by women
Cause and effect
The days of landing a nice 6 figure CPA and dumping him a few years later with a nice settlement are over
How can there be all these divorces if these women can't find husbands?
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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"Suppose the pay gap between men and women were magically eliminated. If that happened, simple arithmetic suggests that half of women would be unable to find what they regard as a suitable mate"

That's already happening. It's the "where have all the good men gone?" phenomenon.
Schlafly can't do simple arithmetic. As I posted 5 pages or so ago, perfect equality would have a small group of high-earning women at the top and a small group of low-earning men at the bottom unable to find a mate with the income difference they so desired.

Of course, women who make their own money have options now - and so they don't have to scheme to snag the first breadwinner who comes along to be considered respectable.

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Men evolved to look for women who could bear and care for their children. Women evolved to look for men who could protect and provide for their children. The ones who were most successful at that are the ones who passed their genes along to the next generation, thus reinforcing it over the passage of time. You can't erase all that simply by declaring your new enlightened view is that gender is a social construct. Reality doesn't care about political correctness.
Oversimplification. There is no lack of indigenous societies that have been run as matriarchies. Research even suggests that women find different types of men attractive when they're pregnant as compared to when they're not.
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