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85% pass rate on a state test is pretty poor. that means 15% of kids failed. that is not the kind of environment found in wealthy private schools.
i get what you're saying -- that might be better than other NYC schools -- but NYC's public school system is terrible.
The children enrolled in NYC public schools come from almost 200 different nations. It's a situation unlike anywhere else on earth.
NYC also has some of the nation's finest highly selective and expensive private schools with annual tuition rates in the $40-45,000 a year range. How might their outcomes change if these schools had to accept children from 200 different nations, regardless of ability and had their budgets cut by 75%?
Basically if you want to improve actual performance of low income students the only effective way I have seen is to do what Wake county did. Which is assign students to schools for socio-economic balance. Then you get actual non-cherry picked improvement.
This approach seems to have worked for them because the state merged an urban and suburban school district. How might that play out if NY decided to merge suburban Nassau and Suffolk county schools with NYC schools? Imagine busing percentage of children from high socio -economic environments out of Long Island and into schools in Queens and busing in a percentage of children from 200 different nations from low socio-economic backgrounds to achieve a balance.
Actually create permanent alternative education schools for those students that are chronically disruptive to the entire learning environment. Teach them some vocational skills and hope they can at least pass the GED.
There's a solution that few would want to talk about.
Don't most urban school and some suburban school systems have alternative schools for the most disruptive ( high school) students?
Not only the chronically disruptive but also students with other handicaps. These are the populations that need the protection of the government. All other schools should be competing for attendance
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Actually create permanent alternative education schools for those students that are chronically disruptive to the entire learning environment. Teach them some vocational skills and hope they can at least pass the GED.
There's a solution that few would want to talk about.
The children enrolled in NYC public schools come from almost 200 different nations. It's a situation unlike anywhere else on earth.
NYC also has some of the nation's finest highly selective and expensive private schools with annual tuition rates in the $40-45,000 a year range. How might their outcomes change if these schools had to accept children from 200 different nations, regardless of ability and had their budgets cut by 75%?
I'd support vouchers for either public or private education, and should cover the same amount. We should not provide a guarenteed reward to any school that doesn't perform, be it public or private. Parents should have the choice to send their children to the school that provides the services that they need at a price that they can afford.
The point of Liberal public education is to produce knowledgeable and thoughtful citizens regardless of social and/or economic status. The point of private conservative education is to produce a ruling elite with all the connections to do well in business or propagandized drones that follow some religious nonsense such as learning that subjugating women is god's will.
I do not want to fund the latter. Those parents can do that on their own.
The point of Liberal public education is to produce knowledgeable and thoughtful citizens regardless of social and/or economic status. The point of private conservative education is to produce a ruling elite with all the connections to do well in business or propagandized drones that follow some religious nonsense such as learning that subjugating women is god's will.
I do not want to fund the latter. Those parents can do that on their own.
You don't have any say in the matter. Sit down, shut up and accept the education facist liberals decide is good for you
As for me I'll take the latter and you can return the school millage and any other tax dollars I pay. Then I can go find a school that suits mine and my children's needs not the brainwashing facist elites currently indoctrinate my children with. Its a good thing im here to teach them math & science because if I left it up to the public schools it wouldn't get done. The only thing that seems to happen in my district is they come home with a handful of condoms now and then and the weekly fund raising scam because no matter how much taxes you throw at these incompetents its never enough
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