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Old 04-17-2014, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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NY Gov. Cuomo Signs Law to Rig Electoral College

The beginning of the ruination of a fine constitutional form of government! Inequality in representation of smaller populated states. This is sure to bring on the cries for greater representation in the senate, such as is now found in the house. Marxism marches into Washington without a shot being fired.

This move will give highly populated states, usually Democratic, the say in presidential elections. It has happened in a number of states and we the people of Colorado never had a say in it. Stacking the deck for the Dems. Your state's are doing this to you.


Nikita Kruchev must be laughing his a$$ off!
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:27 PM
 
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i believe the pact is unconstitutional, but we wont find out until november 2016 at the earliest. in order to sue the states who have signed that compact, one must have standing, and until someone who loses the presidential election as a result of that compact decides to sue, nothing can be done.
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:44 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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The electoral college is antiquated. Anything that moves towards replacing the system with a true democratic popular vote is a good thing. I don't want to vote for a select group electors to go vote for the president. I want to vote for the president.
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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NY Gov. Cuomo Signs Law to Rig Electoral College

The beginning of the ruination of a fine constitutional form of government! Inequality in representation of smaller populated states. This is sure to bring on the cries for greater representation in the senate, such as is now found in the house. Marxism marches into Washington without a shot being fired.

This move will give highly populated states, usually Democratic, the say in presidential elections. It has happened in a number of states and we the people of Colorado never had a say in it. Stacking the deck for the Dems. Your state's are doing this to you.


Nikita Kruchev must be laughing his a$$ off!

Jr. is as much a corrupt POS as Mario was. Just the same, look at the bright side. If an R wins the popular vote he has to put the entire NYS electorial college vote behind them. Should make his whiny big-city supportors get their panties in a bunch.
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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This currently would have no effect on the next presidential election, but it is a move to get rid of the electoral college. 10 states and DC have all passed this measure so far.
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The electoral college is antiquated. Anything that moves towards replacing the system with a true democratic popular vote is a good thing. I don't want to vote for a select group electors to go vote for the president. I want to vote for the president.
really...you think so???

the electorial college is NEEDED

New York city(the city not the state) has a bigger population than over 10 other states COMBINED

nyc population 8.3 million

wyoming 544k
vermont 621k
n. dakota 640k
alaska 690k
s. dakota 821k
delaware 885k
montana 974k
rhode island 1.01 million
hawaii 1.2 million
maine 1.3 million

total 7.8 million

10 states combined less than the population of NY CITY

repealing the electorial college would take away any say of the smaller rural states



look at chicago...ok the population of chicago (A CITY) is 2.7 million..the entire STATE of nebraska is 1.8 million

should a city negate a whole state???

should a urban jungle of 2.6 million out weigh and entire state (of 1.8 million) of rural farms producung all the food for the urban jungle...should those 1.8 million not count just because the city of 2.6 million is more welfare babies



the electorial college is there for a reason...

When establishing our federal government, smaller States like Rhode Island had feared they would have no voice, and therefore no protection, against the more populous States like New York or Massachusetts. Similarly, the sparsely populated agricultural regions feared an inability to protect their interests against the fishing and shipping industries dominant in the more populous coastal States. These concerns on how to preserve individual State voices and diverse regional interests caused the framers to establish a bi-cameral rather than a uni-cameral legislative system.

In that wise plan, one body preserved the will of the majority as determined by population and the other preserved the will of the majority as determined by the States. As Constitution signer James Madison confirmed:

The Constitution is nicely balanced with the federative and popular principles; the Senate are the guardians of the former, and the House of Representatives of the latter; and any attempts to destroy this balance, under whatever specious names or pretences they may be presented, should be watched with a jealous eye.

The Founding Fathers considered all forms of government; thoughtfully, intellectually, historically and they debated and agonized and then they compromised, agreed and then pledged their lives their fortunes and their sacred honor to establish, protect and enable the government they had created. The education, the intellect and the faith of those men can not be underestimated. We can only bring poverty and unrest if we deign to ignore their wisdom and replace our Constitutional Republic, the rule of law, with a Democracy, rule by the mob.

The point is, undermining or ditching the Electoral Collage is a part of the plan to convert America to neo-Marxist mob rule with top-down control by the national (and global) ruling class....the simple fact is the national vote SCHEME is just that a scheme from soros and the fascist liberals looking to bring some hybred of marxism to the USA
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Jr. is as much a corrupt POS as Mario was. Just the same, look at the bright side. If an R wins the popular vote he has to put the entire NYS electorial college vote behind them. Should make his whiny big-city supportors get their panties in a bunch.
andy is MORE corupt than mario

andy was part of the housing bubble
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:20 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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really...you think so???

the electorial college is NEEDED
...
The point is, undermining or ditching the Electoral Collage is a part of the plan to convert America to neo-Marxist mob rule with top-down control by the national (and global) ruling class....the simple fact is the national vote SCHEME is just that a scheme from soros and the fascist liberals looking to bring some hybred of marxism to the USA
Why would a Nebraskan's vote hold more weight than a New Yorker's? Sates aren't voting for the president, citizens are. If 51% of California's voters say they want Candidate A then 49% of California's voters votes aren't counted. It is a joke. Flyover states will moan because first run primaries and swing electorates are the only reason anyone would ever want to visit Ohio.

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It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:34 PM
 
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If a situation develops where one candidate wins the NYS popular vote, but loses the national popular vote, Cuomo is going to look like an idiot.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:57 PM
 
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So the "Freedom loving Real Americans" have a disdain for actual democracy. Well I for one am shocked! Shocked I tell you.

The Senate is where representation of rural states is addressed. There's absolutely zero reason no good reason why you wouldn't have direct elections for President. That is unless you believe your chosen candidate can only win on a state by state basis when fewer people vote. And look on the bright side, we'll no longer have to see television pundits lighting up states or carrying around dry erase boards on election night.
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