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Old 05-05-2014, 03:56 PM
 
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Right now the nuclear option was limited, not a full on nuclear option.

I expect the Republicans, having seen the power the minority can hold, will immediately expand the nuclear option, and try and pass as much of their policies that they can.

They will doom their party after that.
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The “nuclear option” was denounced by all good Democrats and their mouthpiece, the NYT editorial board, when Republicans threatened to use their majority to impose it. Now it’s been a swell idea while they have been in power. The Democrats will scream in protest after they lose the Senate come November.
They will still be in power for a brief time between the election and the seating of the new Congress.

Will they repeal it during that time, before Republicans can use it as they have?
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:59 PM
 
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Again....the GOP has no advantage to change anything right now. They have no need to change anything.

If anything the GOP simply changes the rules back (for now).
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Greywar, do you understand that the Democrats blocked many more judicial nominations than the current Republicans? The issue wasn't the Senate rules, which a majority can change at any time, but hypocrisy.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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They will still be in power for a brief time between the election and the seating of the new Congress.

Will they repeal it during that time, before Republicans can use it as they have?
Little-Acorn, the American people strongly oppose the nuclear option, according to all polls, because they see it for what it is: rewriting the rules to trample the minority. Republicans would be wrong to use it even if available.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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They will still be in power for a brief time between the election and the seating of the new Congress.

Will they repeal it during that time, before Republicans can use it as they have?

They can't. The filibuster changes were very narrow in focus (as shown by the continued filibusters). It only applied to Presidential and Judicial appointments. So there is nothing for the Democrats to repeal during the lame duck session.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Guess who said this in 2005?

“What (Americans) don’t expect is for one Party, be it Republican or Democrat, to change the rules in the middle of the game, so that they can make all the decision while the other Party is told to sit down and keep quiet.”
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:08 PM
 
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Little-Acorn, the American people strongly oppose the nuclear option, according to all polls, because they see it for what it is: rewriting the rules to trample the minority. Republicans would be wrong to use it even if available.
What has that got to do with Democrats changing the Senate rules after the election but before the new Congress is seated?
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:09 PM
 
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They can't. The filibuster changes were very narrow in focus (as shown by the continued filibusters). It only applied to Presidential and Judicial appointments. So there is nothing for the Democrats to repeal during the lame duck session.
What has that got to do with Democrats changing the Senate rules after the election but before the new Congress is seated?
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:16 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Will Senate Democrats repeal the measure they passed, that forbids filibusters of judicial nominees etc., when it becomes clear in early November that THEY will be the ones in the minority, and needing filibusters, for the next XX years?
As some others have mentioned - why would they while they still have the White House?
You seem to not understand what the "nuclear option" is. It seems to me that the "nuclear option" provides no benefit to the party not in control of the White House - so unless the GOP gains the White House (which demographically would be tough for the GOP even in 2016) the Democrats have no reason to repeal it.

Ken
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