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View Poll Results: Do You Believe The Enrollment Numbers For Obamacare?
Yes 54 31.76%
No We Are Being Lied To 113 66.47%
Other Explain 3 1.76%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 170. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-17-2014, 09:23 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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We all know the man and his groupies are liars.

That said, only an 0bot wouldn't realize there's a difference between enrolling and actually paying a premium.


Thank You. You know I have had a couple of friends call the White House recently, don't know yet if they have gotten thru. There are royally pissed, because their premiums have gone up, from the plan they had. They are not happy in the least. So yes they called the W.H. to gripe.

And no I do not believe a liar. One too many times, boy does he take credit, when credit is due. But somehow knows nothing at all, when a scandal is in play. Then he plays stupid, and knows not a damn thing.

He just cannot let it go and bee nice for just once in his life. Had to bash Republicians again, and take that credit, oh boy. Take credit also for a chity economy.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:30 PM
 
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I do believe these numbers because it's not an extreme amount.
It might be a modest lie.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:35 PM
 
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Thank You. You know I have had a couple of friends call the White House recently, don't know yet if they have gotten thru. There are royally pissed, because their premiums have gone up, from the plan they had. They are not happy in the least. So yes they called the W.H. to gripe.

And no I do not believe a liar. One too many times, boy does he take credit, when credit is due. But somehow knows nothing at all, when a scandal is in play. Then he plays stupid, and knows not a damn thing.

He just cannot let it go and bee nice for just once in his life. Had to bash Republicians again, and take that credit, oh boy. Take credit also for a chity economy.
I enrolled because I needed to insure my children at least, but never paid my premium. I am one of the (air quotes) "8 million" newly insured without ANY insurance. They wanted $400 per month, a large deductible that would need to be paid out of my pocket before they'd pay any share of my healthcare, and then and only after the large thousands of dollar deductible was paid, would they pay for some of the insurance cost, but I'd still have to pay a copay. No middle class family with kids can afford the supposedly "affordable" healthcare.

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Old 04-17-2014, 09:47 PM
 
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It might be a modest lie.
I don't think it's a lie. If you are going to lie, inflate it a little more then.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Seriously. Conservatives fought medicare because they thought a government run program would lead to socialism. Medicare isn't without faults but it has dramatically improved health care for seniors. I think we just need to give the ACA time and see how it works.
That's the standard by which you judge ACA?

Oh, my, it's worse than I thought.

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Yes and it's disgusting how doctors have taken advantage of some seniors ordering test after test when they are not needed. My dad told a doc to F off when he suggested a colonoscopy for him. He was 90. But it's not a waste when seniors are on a fixed income and can't afford the meds they need. Good grief, these are our parents and grandparents we are talking about.
You're DEAD wrong. It's the insurance. It's not the doctors.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:05 PM
 
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That's the standard by which you judge ACA?

Oh, my, it's worse than I thought.
How is that. Medicare was fought with the same resistant. So let's here your thoughts on this instead of saying it's worse than you thought
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:08 PM
 
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That's the standard by which you judge ACA?

Oh, my, it's worse than I thought.


You're DEAD wrong. It's the insurance. It's not the doctors.
Sorry, it's the docs, not insurance. Docs over charge thinking they can get away with it.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:21 PM
 
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Sorry, it's the docs, not insurance. Docs over charge thinking they can get away with it.
um no.. Doctors know the reinbursement rate is already pre-established, and their billed rate is meaningless.

Clearly they know more than some posters
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:25 PM
 
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Do You Believe The Enrollment Numbers For Obamacare?
Not for a millasecond!!
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:28 PM
 
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More importantly, I would like to see to breakdown of the enrollment number. I would like to see the true value for the number of people whom did not have insurance prior to enrollment.
You never will.

The msm will never investigate. Not only that, but they will lie, ignore facts and push the agenda.
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