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Originally Posted by surfman The PC police attempting to squelch free speech. Apparently their interpretation of what was said is close enough, even if they're completely wrong. Welcome to Big Brother.
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Originally Posted by nvxplorer
If a teacher told your child to f off, would you be okay with that?
Of course I would, but this isn't what we're discussing is it? I'd also be pissed if a teacher ran my kid over with his car. Should we play the what if game now?
The teacher claims the kid made a statement, and he said one thing and the kid claims he said something else. I'm betting the teacher is probably far more credible than the young student, yet the board sided with the child.
How many times have children made a persons life hell, only to come forward years later and say they did it because they were mad?
is it really his first amendment right to say such things while at work? to students?
The first amendment limits government infringement, not employer infringement. Employment at will means they can fire anyone for any or even no reason (unless covered by EEOC or similar legislation), and the employee may quit their job for any or even no reason.
Originally Posted by surfman The PC police attempting to squelch free speech. Apparently their interpretation of what was said is close enough, even if they're completely wrong. Welcome to Big Brother.
Of course I would, but this isn't what we're discussing is it?
You said it was a free speech issue. Clearly, it isn't.
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I'd also be pissed if a teacher ran my kid over with his car. Should we play the what if game now?
The teacher claims the kid made a statement, and he said one thing and the kid claims he said something else. I'm betting the teacher is probably far more credible than the young student, yet the board sided with the child.
How many times have children made a persons life hell, only to come forward years later and say they did it because they were mad?
You believe it only applies to Congress? By your interpretation, any entity can deny a person their right to it?
The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference. See U.S. Const. amend. I. Freedom of expression consists of the rights to freedom of speech, press, assembly and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, and the implied rights of association and belief. The Supreme Court interprets the extent of the protection afforded to these rights. The First Amendment has been interpreted by the Court as applying to the entire federal government even though it is only expressly applicable to Congress.Furthermore, the Court has interpreted, the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as protecting the rights in the First Amendment from interference by state governments. See U.S. Const. amend. XIV.
You would be entirely wrong according the SCOTUS
There have been plenty of lawsuits won by employees who were fired for their free expressions. I'm guessing this teacher will get his job back.
I don't care what the Supreme Court. The 1st Amendment does not apply to employers/employees. I assume the people that wrote it knew what they meant. And if they meant the 1st Amendment applied to anyone other than Congress then they would have said so.
The Supreme Court has been wrong numerous times. They reverse their own decisions all the time.
Why do people act like only the Supreme Court is the arbitrator of everything? That what they say is always right and just. All they are is a bunch of lawyers. Anyone can read the Constitution and see what it means.
And the State of Massachusetts had an official state religion when the 1st Amendment was passed. No one seemed to have a problem with it then. And it wasn't any big secret either. So the 1st Amendment applies to Congress, not the states.
You believe it only applies to Congress? By your interpretation, any entity can deny a person their right to it?
The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference. See U.S. Const. amend. I. Freedom of expression consists of the rights to freedom of speech, press, assembly and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, and the implied rights of association and belief. The Supreme Court interprets the extent of the protection afforded to these rights. The First Amendment has been interpreted by the Court as applying to the entire federal government even though it is only expressly applicable to Congress.Furthermore, the Court has interpreted, the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as protecting the rights in the First Amendment from interference by state governments. See U.S. Const. amend. XIV.
You would be entirely wrong according the SCOTUS
There have been plenty of lawsuits won by employees who were fired for their free expressions. I'm guessing this teacher will get his job back.
Can you post a link or, two where a teacher has won a lawsuits as you claim???
There usually is more to the story when a thread title is sensationalized. I suppose it is like the tabs-- Daily Mail, NY Post, etc. The headline is supposed to reel you in. I'd say this was one of those. OP gets 4 Pinocchios for a mostly false headline.
Technically the title is correct, it just don't include the back story.
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