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Old 04-19-2014, 07:55 PM
 
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Leftists have an extreme case of pessimistic bias. How come they never mention the increase pace of oil discoveries?


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Old 04-19-2014, 10:12 PM
 
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all fossil fuels will peak someday its just a mater of time, they are finite..
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Old 04-19-2014, 10:18 PM
 
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Those graphs do not show the energy required to extract those reserves. Or the environmental damage required to extract them. Oversimplification is so informative.

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Old 04-19-2014, 10:30 PM
 
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Those graphs do not show the energy required to extract those reserves. Or the environmental damage required to extract them. Oversimplification is so informative.

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And all you know is talking points.. I've seen drilling in this country first hand... Have you? I am in the Permian Basin at this moment.
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Old 04-19-2014, 10:32 PM
 
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all fossil fuels will peak someday its just a mater of time, they are finite..
We have already reached peak oil... Twice that I can remember according to the anti drilling crowd.
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:29 PM
 
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We have already reached peak oil... Twice that I can remember according to the anti drilling crowd.

who knows today, yesterday, or 40 years from now it will peak.. different kinds of peaks for fossil fuels.. world peak, for say light sweet crude, continent peaks, country peaks.. they may find more in one spot while another runs out..

I would definitely say light sweet crude is peaked or is about to peak world wide.

in the not so distant future we humans will be scraping the bottom of the shale rock barrel tearing up the Rockies to get every last drop..
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:45 PM
 
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who knows today, yesterday, or 40 years from now it will peak.. different kinds of peaks for fossil fuels.. world peak, for say light sweet crude, continent peaks, country peaks.. they may find more in one spot while another runs out..

I would definitely say light sweet crude is peaked or is about to peak world wide.

in the not so distant future we humans will be scraping the bottom of the shale rock barrel tearing up the Rockies to get every last drop..
I don't know how old you are, but I can remember batteries 50 years ago. They seldom lasted much beyond getting them home. Car batteries weren't much better. Today they have improved substantially. All kinds of different energy is being explored and being brought online each and every day. Our consumption has fallen dramatically over the years. Fuel efficiency continues to increase. My first car got 12 miles to a gallon (as long as I kept my foot out of it). Today the average car gets 3 times that. You are right. One day in the future, we will reach peak oil, but it isn't going to be in 10 years, or even 20. We will have oil supplies available to us quite possibly into the next century. In the meantime we have to be able to survive and continue to advance. One day, we won't have the need for all of the oil we do today, but we aren't there yet and we have to have oil to get us there.
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Old 04-20-2014, 04:31 AM
 
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We never ran out of kerosene or whale blubber.
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Old 04-20-2014, 05:20 AM
 
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We never ran out of kerosene or whale blubber.
??? Kerosene is a product of crude oil. Oil is certainly going to be an issue in the future, coal will be too for many nations, as practical matter the coal supply here in the US is infinite as it will long be repalced before it runs out. The section marked as "estimated recoverable reserves" is known to exist and takes into account things like whether it can be mined (e.g. it's not under a town) and whether it can be economically mined.

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Old 04-20-2014, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Kerosene was a bad choice. What I wanted to do was back up your point that new technologies will make oil much less needed long before we come anywhere close to running out without any action from government.
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