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A lot of people say they are both, but if you are a fiscal conservative you should probably oppose drug legalization and other socially liberal ideals, which will do nothing but cause a need for more law enforcement, rehab, welfare etc other tax payer funded actions. Why would a fiscal conservative support actions which will put more people on welfare?
Because most people are not going to try out drugs and get addicted to them starting from the day illegal drugs are legalized.
You're confusing social liberalism with fiscal liberalism. They're not the same.
I am not the one who is confused here. I have explained this to you a number of times, an I have asked you questions which I knew would help you understand your error, but you have avoided answering those questions, which can only mean you know the truth, but refuse to admit it.
Study up and learn. Again, I am not promoting single payer. The whole point was to say many conservatives on this thread say single payer is a conservative dream. Get it? You are a social liberal, and allegedly fiscal conservative, which leaves you in conflict over social issues like health care.
No conservative could possibly think government controlled health care is a good thing. Those that do clearly are not conservative. So if they claim that "single-payer" is a good thing, then they obviously are not conservative no matter how much they profess otherwise. They are obviously too stupid to comprehend the meaning of conservative.
A social liberal and fiscal conservative is a schizoid. Nobody can be both for and against welfare, unless they are completely insane.
A social liberal and fiscal conservative is a schizoid. Nobody can be both for and against welfare, unless they are completely insane.
Seems you are confused ... the differences were outlined earlier in this thread.
I have NO problem being Liberal on social issues and Conservative on fiscal issues, I listed my standing on top issues earlier in this thread.
MANY Conservatives would have a problem with my opinion those families with more than two children should pay a LOT more Tax at all levels than me a "single" taxpayer, and you NEVER receive more money back than you paid in.
Should BASIC healthcare be "single payer" financed by tax dollars ?? YES
Should things like elective abortions or elective cosmetic surgery be covered under those plans? NO.
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Originally Posted by Glitch A social liberal and fiscal conservative is a schizoid. Nobody can be both for and against welfare, unless they are completely insane.
Seems you are confused ... the differences were outlined earlier in this thread.
I have NO problem being Liberal on social issues and Conservative on fiscal issues, I listed my standing on top issues earlier in this thread.
MANY Conservatives would have a problem with my opinion those families with more than two children should pay a LOT more Tax at all levels than me a "single" taxpayer, and you NEVER receive more money back than you paid in.
Should BASIC healthcare be "single payer" financed by tax dollars ?? YES
Should things like elective abortions or elective cosmetic surgery be covered under those plans? NO.
If you advocate for more taxes, then you are not conservative. If you support single-payer, then you are not conservative.
Where do you get these incredibly bizarre definitions of conservative? Conservatives want less taxes and less government. You may very well be a social liberal, but you sure as hell are no conservative, fiscal or otherwise.
They are diametrically opposed ideologies. So there are only two possibilities. Someone who claims to be "socially liberal and fiscally conservative:"
Does not understand the meaning of either; or
Is schizophrenic and should be locked up in a rubber room.
Since when? Conservative, republican president introduced Patriot Act, the most intrusive, big government program in history of the us.....
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Originally Posted by Glitch
If you advocate for more taxes, then you are not conservative. If you support single-payer, then you are not conservative.
Where do you get these incredibly bizarre definitions of conservative? Conservatives want less taxes and less government. You may very well be a social liberal, but you sure as hell are no conservative, fiscal or otherwise.
They are diametrically opposed ideologies. So there are only two possibilities. Someone who claims to be "socially liberal and fiscally conservative:"
Does not understand the meaning of either; or
Is schizophrenic and should be locked up in a rubber room.
Since when? Conservative, republican president introduced Patriot Act, the most intrusive, big government program in history of the us.....
Not true.
First, Presidents do not introduce legislation. Second, it was a Republican controlled House and a Democrat controlled Senate that passed the USAPATRIOT Act. Third, who ever claimed Republicans were conservative?
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