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Old 04-25-2014, 09:29 AM
 
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Such vacuous expressions of ignorance about the pervasive economic injustice in our nation aren't impressive.
I do work. Stop trying to evade the substantive repudiation for what you support with such lies and evasions.
Then you should have no problem with property taxes.
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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Opportunities are evaporating as pot get more and more legal.
That is when you move to marketing....
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:30 AM
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Location: Florida
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Then you should have no problem with property taxes.
Not everyone makes decisions based solely on their own personal financial advantage, like you apparently do. Stop trying to evade the substantive repudiation for what you support with such lies and evasions.
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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Ice cream has no bones.
You are going to have to explain that one to me....
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:33 AM
 
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Not everyone makes decisions based solely on their own personal financial advantage, like you apparently do. Stop trying to evade the substantive repudiation for what you support with such lies and evasions.
Do you agree low to medium incomes can get their property tax money back???

If not...why???
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:34 AM
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You are going to have to explain that one to me....
I realized afterward that the reference was either too far before your time, or otherwise too arcane to reasonably expect you to understand, so I've revised my reply to translate it into conversational English:
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Not everyone makes decisions based solely on their own personal financial advantage, like you apparently do. Stop trying to evade the substantive repudiation for what you support with such lies and evasions.
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Do you agree low to medium incomes can get their property tax money back??? If not...why???
Again: Stop trying to evade the substantive repudiation for what you support with evasions.
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:43 AM
 
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I realized afterward that the reference was either too far before your time, or otherwise too arcane to reasonably expect you to understand, so I've revised my reply to translate it into conversational English:Again: Stop trying to evade the substantive repudiation for what you support with evasions.
The subject is property taxes.
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:52 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What injustice.....get off your ass and work.
But... but... but... actually requiring one to WORK is unjust.

/sarcasm on the patently absurd "life owes me because I exist" mindset.
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Old 04-25-2014, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Thank you for admitting that you lied about what I wrote, in your earlier message.

I think you're just making up nonsense to support the corrupt, self-serving perspective you prefer. You seem primed to call "black" "white" and tell people that "up" is "down", your arguments smelling a lot like those of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy who said this week that Blacks were better off under slavery, to rationalize the offensive exploitation you want society to endorse. Let's leave it at that.

The problem is that a lot of parents who hold offensively self-fixated perspectives teach their children to embrace such patterns of hate and callous disregard for others.
Wow so much anger.

First, I never lied about what you wrote either in my earlier post nor in the last one. Nor did I in any way admit that I lied.

Secondly, if you had actually read what I wrote, you would realize that my argument is that the current system actually reinforces achievement gaps instead of eliminating them. In fact, if you were to go back in time, economic segregation was far less in the past than it is today. It used to be that people of all economic backgrounds would usually live right next to each other. But today, anyone with the means to move to the suburbs, does. And in most cases, the reason they move to the suburbs, is for the higher quality schools.

The Rise of Economic Segregation - Emily Badger - The Atlantic Cities

I do not believe that the poor, on average, would be any worse off if you abolished public-education.

The reason is, education performance has nothing to do with whether education is public or private. It has nothing to do with how much money is spent. Education relies entirely on the parents. Whether you are poor or rich, if your parents care about education, you will get an education.

In truth, the real argument for public-education has nothing to do the rich and poor dichotomy. The basic argument for the need for public-education really centers around the existence of crappy parents.

Which is why if you look at home-schooled children, there is virtually no achievement gap between rich kids and poor kids. The reason is, if you want to home-school your child, it means you value education. If you value education then your children will get an education.

Further, those who argue against home-school don't base their opinions on the quality of education one receives from being home-schooled. Their concern is always that some stupid, irresponsible, and neglectful parent will try to home-school their child and do a terrible job.

Thus as I said in my previous post, public-education is not and has never been about providing people with high-quality educations. Public-education was created as an outgrowth of socialist egalitarian thinking in the 1800's. In their thinking, it is better to bring the quality of education down to make sure everyone gets the same education, than to have large achievement gaps(which btw has utterly failed).

This can be seen time and again when people talk about privatizing education. The argument against vouchers, is that all the "good" kids will end up in one school and all the "bad" kids will end up in another school. It doesn't matter to them that the good kids are going to suffer because of such a policy. Because in their minds, it is more fair to make everyone suffer than to let anyone "get ahead".


Which goes back to my Winston Churchill quote... "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."


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The problem is that a lot of parents who hold offensively self-fixated perspectives teach their children to embrace such patterns of hate and callous disregard for others.
In my opinion, you hold offensively self-fixated perspectives and embrace extreme patterns of hate and callous disregard for others. The level of hatred which spews out of your mouth every time you speak is appalling. The utter contempt you have for anyone who doesn't agree with you is disgusting.

You don't even want to have a debate, you don't want to have a discussion. You never support your statements with any proofs or explanations. You just want to send scathing hatred towards anyone who says something you don't agree with.
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Old 04-25-2014, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Tax and Spend (repeat after me) it gives the politicos great power...and they luv it!
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