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Old 05-27-2014, 11:37 AM
 
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there is no wrong when it comes to taxes, except "no taxation without representation"

wrong is a judgement, and there is no evidence that on any moral or social ground that property taxes for future education of children is wrong. In fact, society as a whole has decided its a priority

so you can either move to a third world country. . .or let it go
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I don't mind paying for the schools, it's the brand new cop cars every year and top heavy brass at the sheriffs department I could do without. We have fire but it's useless as I'm too far from any response and by the time they get here anything would be ash anyhow. It's basically extortion so a handful of lazy can have a job.
One would think a majority might have something to say about buying brand new cop cars every year and top heavy brass at the sheriff's department.
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Where I used to live Howard county Maryland. It's like the 4-5th or somewhere richest county in the USA. And home to some of the best public schools. My main issue is during the housing boom they collected record taxes with increasing property values. It's its written in the law that even in the event of house prices crashing. Property taxes cannot decrease more than 10%. So even if your house fell 30% in value they wouldn't adjust property taxes down 30%.
When home values fell 30%, did the municipality close schools, fire police officers, firefighters, first responders,
close the libraries, close the parks and default on its outstanding debt?

When property values decline, the multiplier increases and vice versa in times of health value appreciation. In other words, the municipality will get what it needs to function, regardless of fluctuations in property values.

I don't know anything about Howard Cty, Md. I do know that many municipalities incurred substantial new debt over the past 10-15 years, building new municipal stuff. Seems most of the people went with the flow and here we are.
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Contrary to popular belief, there are in fact places with no property taxes. Services are normally very limited and the towns aren't usually very desirable, but they do exist.
I am unaware of any place in the U.S. without property taxes. Every place belongs to a school district and minimally has county sheriffs. There's more to the property tax bill than fees from the municipality.
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:53 AM
 
Location: California
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Property taxes have been imposed since the early 1600's. Originally the Pilgrims used the tax revenues to support schools and churches, regardless if one went to church or used the schools.
Doesn't matter when this avenue of raising $'s started. It is time to stop putting our homes in jeopardy...there are other ways to raise the revenue.

Actually, the government at all levels needs to stop spending on anything that is not a necessary service to provide for protection of the citizens. Police, fire, sewer, water and other absolute necessary services. Those legitimately on welfare can work for the payments from the government. Those who can work in the private section need to get off their lazy a** and go to work.
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:55 AM
 
Location: California
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there is no wrong when it comes to taxes, except "no taxation without representation"

wrong is a judgement, and there is no evidence that on any moral or social ground that property taxes for future education of children is wrong. In fact, society as a whole has decided its a priority

so you can either move to a third world country. . .or let it go
It is a very "wrong judgement" in your words to take away someone's home in the name of unpaid property taxes...especially when one has absolutely no control of government raising those taxes.
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Why don't you move here to Alaska? The vast majority of the state does not have property taxes. We have no state sales taxes or income taxes. We also don't have a nanny state where the government tries to control every aspect of your life. Geez, they don't even require permits to carry firearms, concealed or open.
According to this link, " Alaska has one of the highest average property tax rates in the country, with only twelve states levying higher property taxes."

Alaska Property Taxes By County - 2014
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:28 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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there is no wrong when it comes to taxes, except "no taxation without representation"
That actually happens more often than you think. Anyone with a home in 2 locations can nearly always only vote in one location. They are taxed in the other location but have no representation whatsoever. Residents of vacation destination areas (lakes, mountains, etc.) use that power to royally screw over non-resident property owners. Happens all the time.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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Those legitimately on welfare can work for the payments from the government. Those who can work in the private section need to get off their lazy a** and go to work.
They used to have a work for welfare program in the 50's I believe. People in those days were too ashamed to collect welfare without working for it. My fil said no one had an issue with it because people were working for the money they were paid.
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Old 05-27-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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It is a very "wrong judgement" in your words to take away someone's home in the name of unpaid property taxes...especially when one has absolutely no control of government raising those taxes.
Property taxes is one tax there is votes on directly.

We voted for 911.

A millage for schools

A library millage.

A road and bridge millage.

Just this year we had a special election.....the county wanted to raise the base millage.

All these things were voted down over the last five years.
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