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Old 04-29-2014, 02:36 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
NSA spying on every American was until recently considered a conspiracy theory.

The USA using torture was considered a conspiracy theory not that long ago.

That the government would argue they can throw U.S. citizens in prison and deny them due process rights was considered a conspiracy theory not that long ago.

The reason they aren't easily dismissed is because too many of them have been true.[/quote]



Indeed

The msm is corporate controlled disinfo.



The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.''

More J. Edgar Hoover Quotes

"In politics, there are no accidents"

Franklin Delano Roosevelt


Anyone who has read factual history realizes they are being LIED to by their government. Americans are not yet ready to face facts that the U.K. and others have already seen about their government and what it is truly capable of.

Any American who takes the msm as a valid information source, clearly needs to educate themselves about propaganda and Edward Bernays

The Engineering of Consent" is an essay by Edward Bernays first published in 1947

He defines "engineering consent" as the art of manipulating people. It maintained that entire populations, which were undisciplined or lacking in intellectual or definite moral principles, were vulnerable to unconscious influence and thus susceptible to want things that they do not need. This was achieved by linking those products and ideas to their unconscious desires. Ernest Dichter, who is widely considered to be the "father of motivational research," referred to this as "the secret-self of the American consumer
In other words, consumer psychologists have already made the choice for people before they buy a certain product. This is achieved by manipulating desires on an unconscious level.
The central idea behind the engineering of consent is that the public or people should not be aware of the manipulation taking place.
The "Engineering Consent" chapter of Christopher Bryson's book The Fluoride Deception describes how Bernays helped the water fluoridation campaign in the USA.


The Engineering of Consent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edward Bernays and the Engineering of Consent - The Wall Street Psychologist
But don't you mean MSN? Never HEARD OF MSM...but I would say FAUX News would be a far more accurate example of government controlled media,even though they all are government controlled now,but Faux is the Right Wing Extremist's PROPAGANDA spreader!

 
Old 04-29-2014, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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But don't you mean MSN? Never HEARD OF MSM...but I would say FAUX News would be a far more accurate example of government controlled media,even though they all are government controlled now,but Faux is the Right Wing Extremist's PROPAGANDA spreader!
MSM=mainstream media.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Conspiracy Confirmed! TWA Flight 800 Whistleblowers Speak Out – NTSB Told Them To Lie

crash of TWA Flight 800 off of the coast of New York back in 1996 was much more than we had been previously told as whistleblowers have come out stating that the NTSB told them to lie by placing gag orders on this entire episode of American history in another US government coverup now falling to pieces. Think that the crash of TWA’s flight 800 wasn’t a cover-up or a conspiracy? Then you haven’t read the latest. (An outstanding video on the coverup of TWA Flight 800 also below):

A group of whistleblowers, including a number of aviation experts, have come forward in a new documentary to claim that the official explanation for the crash of TWA Flight 800 was wrong and a gas tank explosion did not bring down the flight off the coast of New York.

In fact, the whistleblower team, which includes among its members investigators who at the time worked for the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), TWA, and the Airline Pilots Association, all of whom have since retired from their positions, have now claimed that during the incident, they were all placed under a gag order by the NTSB. The NTSB subsequently ended up falsifying the official conclusion of the cause of the crash. The whistleblowers said that they would say much more on a Wednesday media interview as the lies of the US government are quickly now falling apart





"Shadows of Liberty": New Film Explores How Corporate Control of Media Erodes Press Freedoms - YouTube

SHADOWS OF LIBERTY, a must see for erosion of freedom of press, re FLIGHT 800

Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/conspiracy-confirmed-twa-flight-800-whistleblowers-speaks-crash-story-is-a-lie/#fccfKOG7ohiSISrC.99
 
Old 04-29-2014, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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You are way over-thinking this. Why are conspiracies and conspiracy theories ridiculed by the media? Simple answer, because most of them are ridiculous.
But not all of them. And if we had more aggressive reporting, we might discover more of them. The history of our government doing stuff in secret is certainly colorful.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 05:48 AM
 
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Conspiracy Confirmed! TWA Flight 800 Whistleblowers Speak Out – NTSB Told Them To Lie
this was news, about for a minute, until the truth got out about who these "whistleblowers" were and how they were just whoring for the media/not actually involved with the investigation. Plus . . the documentary, that was released to much media affair, had nothing new to offer anyone.


The day the US govt uses a Boeing in a "conspiracy" is the day it forgets the hand that feeds it.

Even if there was giant conspiracies all around, they would never cast shadow on the military industrial complex. . .of which Boeing is a lord


its like conspiracy theorists don't even TRY to think
 
Old 04-29-2014, 05:52 AM
 
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The ones that get bashed the most, have the most evidence that it is the truth. With a full investigation into it, by some very smart people, that then get labeled a kook nutjob.


When they cannot refute all the facts presented, you are then a kooky conspiracy nut.
such a thing doesn't really exist.


It doesn't happen.

Things with evidence become narrative.

Things that get bashed.. .its like religion. That is where you see the parallel. The person who is a Mormon stands there and can only see that every light, star, and mountain confirms his belief. He is attacked, because he alone knows the truth.

Yet to the rest of us we just see mountains, and stars. It is his belief that shapes the world he sees to fit that beliefs needs. There is no "evidence" there is just an assembled roshark test that only those of faith can see


Then those of faith (conspiracy theorist or Mormon) act all surprised when no one else can see the same cherry picked fallacy ridden crap as reality
 
Old 04-29-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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this was news, about for a minute, until the truth got out about who these "whistleblowers" were and how they were just whoring for the media/not actually involved with the investigation. Plus . . the documentary, that was released to much media affair, had nothing new to offer anyone.


The day the US govt uses a Boeing in a "conspiracy" is the day it forgets the hand that feeds it.

Even if there was giant conspiracies all around, they would never cast shadow on the military industrial complex. . .of which Boeing is a lord


its like conspiracy theorists don't even TRY to think
Do you think that large companies like Boeing are above getting themselves involved in a conspiracy?
 
Old 04-29-2014, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Then those of faith (conspiracy theorist or Mormon) act all surprised when no one else can see the same cherry picked fallacy ridden crap as reality
Hmmm.....

Like the NSA spying on Americans?

Like the IRS playing politics?

Like J Edgar Hoover collecting info on his enemies?

Like the government telling us pot is bad for the past 70 years?

Like the military experimenting with syphilis on black soldiers?

Like the faked Oldsmobile fire shown on national news (NBC or CBS)?

Like the "I did not have sex with that woman" ?

Like the Fast and Furious gun sales to Mexican Cartels?

Yeah, none of those conspiracy theories are true since everything our government tells us and everything the mainstream media tells us has to be true.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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Do you think that large companies like Boeing are above getting themselves involved in a conspiracy?
I didn't say that did I


They are above allowing their multi-billion airframe being disparaged.
 
Old 04-29-2014, 09:40 AM
 
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I didn't say that did I


They are above allowing their multi-billion airframe being disparaged.
What if the reward was higher then the loss?
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