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Thanks for backing up what I was saying. It can cause flu in others. Serious illnesses have not been reported but the study was small and we have no idea whatsoever if someone else out in the world caught the flu from someone who had the vaccine and had a more serious case because most people have no idea who or where they contracted the flu from. To act like that one study is the end all be all final word is not very honest.
Actually, no serious illnesses have been reported ever.That goes beyond the small study in the package insert. It includes post-marketing surveillance.
I cannot imagine the cognitive dissonance that allows someone to fear secondary exposure to the weakened virus in the nasal flu vaccine, with no reports of serious side effects, more than exposure to the wild influenza virus, which is known to cause serious illness and death.
Actually, no serious illnesses have been reported ever.That goes beyond the small study in the package insert. It includes post-marketing surveillance.
I cannot imagine the cognitive dissonance that allows someone to fear secondary exposure to the weakened virus in the nasal flu vaccine, with no reports of serious side effects, more than exposure to the wild influenza virus, which is known to cause serious illness and death.
To be fair if you do catch it you most likely won't die.....you'll just wish you would.
They read these out there whackos and correlate it as a higher danger then the virus. And then they tell a friend who trusts their judgement, who tells another one, who then tells the first one...suddenly not only is she saying it-but so are others, so it MUST be true!
And they simply don't comprehend that one danger is bigger then the other. Its like a guy wandering across the road looking at where he places his feet, and not looking for traffic.
Out of all the millions, perhaps billions of doses given, ONE case of flu from the vaccine has been documented AFAIK. One. And now you are questioning people's honesty.
The results were based one one small study of less then 200 people. We have no way of knowing if anyone in the general population who caught the flu, caught it from someone who had gotten the nasal mist vaccine since most people have no idea who or where they caught the flu. If anything, there needs to be further studies because one study with a relatively small sample size is not irrefutable proof that more people have not caught the flu from a person who had the nasal mist vaccine.
Actually, no serious illnesses have been reported ever.That goes beyond the small study in the package insert. It includes post-marketing surveillance.
Please share the evidence of the post marketing surveillance that proves your claims.
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010
I cannot imagine the cognitive dissonance that allows someone to fear secondary exposure to the weakened virus in the nasal flu vaccine, with no reports of serious side effects, more than exposure to the wild influenza virus, which is known to cause serious illness and death.
I'm not afraid of the flu. I just find it irresponsible and hypocritical to push a vaccine that has shown that it is capable of spreading the very disease it is meant to protect people from.
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The results were based one one small study of less then 200 people. We have no way of knowing if anyone in the general population who caught the flu, caught it from someone who had gotten the nasal mist vaccine since most people have no idea who or where they caught the flu. If anything, there needs to be further studies because one study with a relatively small sample size is not irrefutable proof that more people have not caught the flu from a person who had the nasal mist vaccine.
OK I do 100 studies, each one containing 200 people. In one of those studies ONE incident occurs......
To be fair if you do catch it you most likely won't die.....you'll just wish you would.
They read these out there whackos and correlate it as a higher danger then the virus. And then they tell a friend who trusts their judgement, who tells another one, who then tells the first one...suddenly not only is she saying it-but so are others, so it MUST be true!
And they simply don't comprehend that one danger is bigger then the other. Its like a guy wandering across the road looking at where he places his feet, and not looking for traffic.
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Originally Posted by greywar
OK I do 100 studies, each one containing 200 people. In one of those studies ONE incident occurs......
The studies have to be based in reality. Studies that you make up in your mind don't count.
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Oh really? So, if we didn't get this wonderful vaccine to prevent the flu, big pharma billions more on what? Chicken soup in tablet form? The truth is there is no treatment for the flu, nor the vast majority of the supposed flu which when tested shows no influenza infection. Rest ... liquids, and fever reducers from the drug store is the typical course. Virus infections cannot be treated with antibiotics or other drugs, other than the more recent creations which claim to reduce symptoms and duration.
Contrary to the insinuations, big pharma makes billions on vaccines .... the flu vaccine itself is useless in preventing flu, since the majority of cases assumed to be flu are not actually a result of influenza viruses of any type. And even when the virus types used in the vaccine are found to be a total mismatch to the virus circulating ... there is not stoppage of promoting the useless vaccine.
I'd like everyone to reread your post very carefully, so that they notice the direct contradictions ....
And then read what doctors are reporting at the top link.
These live virus vaccines are triggering all sorts of problems from asthma attacks to convulsive fevers, to more severe reactions.
Glad to see your link confirms what I have been saying.
There are antiviral medications for influenza. The two commonly used are Tamiflu and Relenza.
There are tests to confirm whether the illness is influenza. Because they are expensive, they are used only in more severe cases. People with suspected mild influenza do not need to have confirmatory testing.
In studies on the effectiveness of vaccines, confirmatory testing is done.
The results were based one one small study of less then 200 people. We have no way of knowing if anyone in the general population who caught the flu, caught it from someone who had gotten the nasal mist vaccine since most people have no idea who or where they caught the flu. If anything, there needs to be further studies because one study with a relatively small sample size is not irrefutable proof that more people have not caught the flu from a person who had the nasal mist vaccine.
Oh, jeez Louise! This has already been responded to, but just keep repeating and repeating the talking point. How much studying do you think has been done of these snake oil treatments that you use?
Oh, jeez Louise! This has already been responded to, but just keep repeating and repeating the talking point. How much studying do you think has been done of these snake oil treatments that you use?
I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying if you think this has been responded to. The "treatments" I use work. They aren't "snake oil". Studies support their ability to fight the flu.
I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying if you think this has been responded to. The "treatments" I use work. They aren't "snake oil". Studies support their ability to fight the flu.
How many studies? How many subjects? Please elaborate.
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