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Clemson University (South Carolina) is thinking about banning all tobacco products on campus, INCLUDING e-cigarettes. They're following the College of Charleston and Medical University of South Carolina and the University of South Carolina have all banned tobacco on their entire campuses. Story is in the Post and Courier on Tuesday, April 22. You can almost see their point on tobacco, because of the second-hand smoke problem. But that problem DOESN'T EXIST with e-cigs! So why include them in the ban?
I'd imagine they want to ban e-cigs because they are just another way to deliver nicotine into the body and if the whole idea is to rid college grounds of nicotine consumption the idea of e-cigs being a method to cease smoking can also be an inducement to start smoking.Basically nicotine is just another drug and i guess the college doesnt want people doing drugs on campus..
Clemson University (South Carolina) is thinking about banning all tobacco products on campus, INCLUDING e-cigarettes. They're following the College of Charleston and Medical University of South Carolina and the University of South Carolina have all banned tobacco on their entire campuses. Story is in the Post and Courier on Tuesday, April 22. You can almost see their point on tobacco, because of the second-hand smoke problem. But that problem DOESN'T EXIST with e-cigs! So why include them in the ban?
The answer to your question is.... social engineering and manipulation. Think that's far fetched? Just read the statements made by LA and NY City Council Members about why they enacted bans on e-products in public. They said they "didn't want e-products to undo the years of work it took to place a stigma on smokers and the act of smoking itself"... They "didn't want e-products to re-normalize the sight of smoking in public places" Government officials openly admitting that their intent is to place a stigma on certain people. All this, without any serious evidence of harm to direct users from e-products, let alone passerby.
The goal is to influence and control the way you think, and therefore the way you act. They are not content to give the public information and let them make their own choices and decisions about e-products. Their intent Is to manipulate society into making choices that they have pre-determined is best for us while making us think we have arrived at these conclusions all on our own.
Basically the goal is to brainwash people in to believing negative stereotypes about not only e-products and traditional tobacco products themselves, but also about the people who use them so that we will not smoke. Don't be a sheeple, think for yourself, educate yourself, and make your own decisions. Don't let the nanny state do it for you.
Last edited by WhipperSnapper 88; 04-23-2014 at 01:58 AM..
Aren't scientists still checking out the effects of second-hand vapor?
I suppose banning it til some sound results come in is a good precaution.
You're serious?
When we start banning things and passing regulations based on unfounded and unproven fears, we may as well just revert back to the days where humans thought illness was caused by demons.
And btw, even if e-cigs were to get a clean bill of health, laws regulating their use in public will never be repealed or amended for the reasons I outlined in the post above this one.
When we start banning things and passing regulations based on unfounded and unproven fears, we may as well just revert back to the days where humans thought illness was caused by demons.
And btw, even if e-cigs were to get a clean bill of health, laws regulating their use in public will never be repealed or amended for the reasons I outlined in the post above this one.
I'll actually buy your argument to a large extent.
However
It also goes both ways. It took decades (and we still aren't all the way there yet) to get smoking and its effects confined to the individual who chooses to engage in the activity even though science had concluded it was harming others.
I'll actually buy your argument to a large extent.
However
It also goes both ways. It took decades (and we still aren't all the way there yet) to get smoking and its effects confined to the individual who chooses to engage in the activity even though science had concluded it was harming others.
I don't support smoking bans on traditional cigarettes either. They are a violation of private property rights and an infringement on the free market....
If I own a bar and I let people smoke.... if you walk in and see people smoking and continue to patronize my bar, then you have accepted the risks associated and you are not being forced to inhale second hand smoke, you are voluntarily doing so of your own free will to spite the known risks.
The only places where smoking bans of any kind are appropriate are truly public places, like post offices, public transit, or anywhere the public at large has a legal right to be.
I don't support smoking bans on traditional cigarettes either. They are a violation of private property rights and an infringement on the free market....
If I own a bar and I let people smoke.... if you walk in and see people smoking and continue to patronize my bar, then you have accepted the risks associated and you are not being forced to inhale second hand smoke.
The only places where smoking bans of any kind are appropriate are truly public places, like post offices, public transit, or anywhere the public at large has a legal right to be.
I agree for the most part as well. I'm in favor of doing any drugs you want as long as it doesn't effect the health of others.
As far as I know the jury is still out on second-hand vapor. Could be wrong.
All I was saying is that it took/is taking forever for cigs to be banned in public areas and that if e-cigs got the same diagnosis as traditional cigs I would hate to see decades pass before we could get them out of the public arena.
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