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Old 04-26-2014, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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And? Polygamy, polyandry, and incest marriages don't change the definition of my marriage, so why does same-sex marriage change the definition of your marriage?

Also, I have known plenty of heterosexual people to be some big perverts, but that isn't something that is brought up when one gets a civil marriage.

 
Old 04-26-2014, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Nononsenseguy gave you eight good secular reasons why marriage should only be between a man and a woman.

Urtbanlife78 conceded the point that there is no way to redefine marriage to include same-sex marriages while excluding other non-traditional perversions of marriage.

Me, I asked a simple question.

How do you redefine marriage such that traditional marriages between one man and one woman are permitted along with same-sex marriages but other non-traditional forms of marriage (incest, polygamy) are still prohibited?
Simple you remove the gender restriction just like they removed the race restrictions years ago. Removing one restriction does not remove all other restrictions.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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That can happen now, I know heterosexual couples that are total perverts, but what does that have to do with marriage?

Yeah, but why go looking for it?
 
Old 04-26-2014, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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And? Polygamy, polyandry, and incest marriages don't change the definition of my marriage, so why does same-sex marriage change the definition of your marriage?

Also, I have known plenty of heterosexual people to be some big perverts, but that isn't something that is brought up when one gets a civil marriage.


Just because people do stupid **** doesn't mean we need to make special accommodations for it.

FTR, do you think winning the Nobel Peace Prize means what it used to before Obama, Arafat, Gorbachev and Gore received the award.

There is a big difference between being in the company of MLK, Walesa and Theresa and these other clowns.

To claim the Nobel Peace Price is anything but a joke today is laughable.

Hopefully marriage won't go the route of other once respected institutions.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yeah, but why go looking for it?
Go looking for what? Lots of people enjoy fun sex, hetero and homo, not sure what that has to do with marriage....has there been something on your mind sexually you wish to chat with us about?

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Just because people do stupid **** doesn't mean we need to make special accommodations for it.

FTR, do you think winning the Nobel Peace Prize means what it used to before Obama, Arafat, Gorbachev and Gore received the award.

There is a big difference between being in the company of MLK, Walesa and Theresa and these other clowns.

To claim the Nobel Peace Price is anything but a joke today is laughable.

Hopefully marriage won't go the route of other once respected institutions.
What special accomodations? No one is asking you to let a same-sex couple crash on your couch for a month. People getting married that aren't getting married to you have no effect on your marriage.

The Nobel Peace Prize?? Talk about going off topic.

Marriage will be defined for each couple differently, but as long as the law doesn't discriminate against same-sex couples, it will be fine.

No one is forcing you to get gay married, no one is forcing you to accept same-sex marriage, and a same-sex marriage will have ZERO effect on your marriage.

I get that you will never accept same-sex marriage, but our country doesn't need your blessing to make it legal.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 05:54 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Haha, "know him." I also know Santa and the Easter Bunny, but that doesn't make them real.
Sure. I suppose you think you have insulted me. You have only made yourself look even more foolish.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Sure. I suppose you think you have insulted me. You have only made yourself look even more foolish.
Hardly an insult, I am just aware what is fictional on this planet.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I think people want to use the slippery slope argument on gay marriage but there is none. The gay marriage laws are just for gay marriage not trying to legalize sister wives or incest marriage as well. Could some claim that but people can claim anything.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 10:10 PM
 
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I think people want to use the slippery slope argument on gay marriage but there is none. The gay marriage laws are just for gay marriage not trying to legalize sister wives or incest marriage as well. Could some claim that but people can claim anything.

I'm interested in the line of reasoning you used to include same-sex marriage with traditional marriage between one man and one woman while excluding everything else.

I understand that you believe marriage laws that define marriage as a union between one man and one woman can be challenged in court and the law defining marriage altered to include same-sex unions, but how do you then prevent the same-sex marriage precedent from being applied to other non-traditional forms of marriage?
 
Old 04-27-2014, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I'm interested in the line of reasoning you used to include same-sex marriage with traditional marriage between one man and one woman while excluding everything else.

I understand that you believe marriage laws that define marriage as a union between one man and one woman can be challenged in court and the law defining marriage altered to include same-sex unions, but how do you then prevent the same-sex marriage precedent from being applied to other non-traditional forms of marriage?
And marriage laws use to say people of different races couldn't marry, but that has changed, just like you are seeing civil marriage change again to allow same sex marriage as well....but don't worry, it will have ZERO effect on your heterosexual marriage.
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