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Old 04-26-2014, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You guys can deflect all you want, but at the end of the day, week, month, year, decade there is still no evidence that vaccines cause autism.

In my lengthly career in nursing, vaccines have been blamed for a lot of things. Thirty years ago, it wasn't autism, it was SIDS that was caused by vaccines, specifically DTP vaccine. As several new vaccines came out, they all supposedly caused something, generally stuff like diabetes and multiple sclerosis which has no known cure. Then Wakefield hit the paydirt with autism. Parents are afraid of autism, and rightly so. So vaccine haters linked the two. This too shall pass.

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Old 04-26-2014, 05:37 PM
 
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The pharmers know what causes autism.

Whether it's vaccines, or something else, they ain't talking.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 05:46 PM
 
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The pharmers know what causes autism.

Whether it's vaccines, or something else, they ain't talking.
Truthfully, that is!

Think they'll come out with an autism vaccine?
 
Old 04-26-2014, 05:47 PM
 
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Truthfully, that is!

Think they'll come out with an autism vaccine?
Very doubtful.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Pa
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A perfect example of why people avoid these types of conversations. Way too dogmatic.
That and the all in or all out mentality.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Then tell us, what causes autism?
Here's a good place to start reading:

The Autism Science Foundation
 
Old 04-26-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Perhaps you do not realize that the nonsense in the original article is not based on an actual peer-reviewed study of cases? It is allegedly a "review", but it reviews a lot of "studies" that have also been debunked.

It is pseudoscientific hogwash. The author provides no real evidence to support her hypothesis.

From the first link here, a deconstruction of the article by a scientist who actually works with human DNA:

//www.city-data.com/forum/34529836-post9.html

"To do what Dr. Ratajczak claims, human DNA from vaccines would have to:

Find its way to the brain in significant quantities.
Make it into the neurons in the brain in significant quantities.
Make it into the nucleus of the neurons in significant quantities.
Undergo homologous recombination at a detectable level, resulting in either the alteration of a cell surface protein or the expression of a foreign cell surface protein that the immune system can recognize.
Undergo homologous recombination in many neurons in such a way that results in the neurons having cell surface protein(s) altered sufficiently to be recognized as foreign."

In other words, it isn't happening. See the link for more details.

The article in the OP is debunked --- by someone who knows DNA.
Blah, blah, blah, as I said in my final paragraph that you apparently glossed over, I have no opinion either way so keep the snarky attitude to yourself.

City Data is not scientific proof. Provide the link to actual papers, not a link to another City Data post.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 06:18 PM
 
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That and the all in or all out mentality.
Choice has a devastating effect on the "all in" mentality, doesn't it?
 
Old 04-26-2014, 06:21 PM
 
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Here's a good place to start reading:

The Autism Science Foundation
Right!

It's an out of control hereditary attack.

It all began when women started wearing blue genes.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 06:22 PM
 
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Here's a good place to start reading:

The Autism Science Foundation
I've read quite a bit about autism. Does this link contain the answer as to the cause of autism? Because if the cause is still unknown then we should not be so quick to rule anything out. There are still a lot that we don't know.
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