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Given that they were buried, I'm guessing he is correct. Some quick googling will show the government stated that they buried them. Not surprising given that they were killed unexpectedly.
Prize Bull hyperbole. If they were "prize bulls" Bundy wouldn't have them wandering around loose on public land.
From the looks of his cows, his bulls were nothing special. I didn't see any of his cattle that were purebreds. They all looked light for the amount of time they've been on the BLM range, which is not at it's best for the year.
Obviously, Bundy takes much greater care of is melons than his cattle. His melons have an excellent reputation and are, according to what I read, are all certified organic. The cows are just an excuse to get on a horse once in a while.
Range bulls don't cost any more than a couple of good cows. These days, all the best bulls never go to the range.
The prize bulls lead very pampered lives in barns and are never allowed to breed naturally because it is too dangerous to them. They are used as semen factories, and their semen is sold in artificial insemination straws that are used by humans to inseminate the cattle a dozen or so at a time in chutes, one after another.
The process is only done by ranchers who are serious about improving the quality of their herds. Artificial insemination comes with a guarantee a cow will conceive and 'settle' into pregnancy. No conception, no money changes hands. The semen is frozen in nitrogen, so it can be sent any time until a cow conceives.
It's all in the numbers; these days, the very best mother cows, who need not be purebred, are more valuable as surrogate mothers to implanted embryos than bulls, as they produce more consistently viable calves. Cattlemen will pay more for very feminine cows who have good mothering records than for bulls.
Cattle cloning done this way has been going on for decades now, in both meat and dairy cattle.
Range bulls left on their own, like Bundy's, often become become buddies and only breed a few heifers, taking turns, and ignore all the other cows. Half a herd that's fallow can drive a cattleman out of business in a year's time.
A fallow cow is a loss for the year. Deciding to keep a fallow cow is something that must be weighed very carefully. Not so with a bull. A good cow can live to be 10 or more, but a good bull usually doesn't live longer than 4-5 years at most. They aren't allowed to become too old, or too heavy or too lazy.
Responsible cattlemen who use range bulls manage their bulls closely during the breeding season, and bulls have to earn their keep. One who doesn't perform ends up in the same hamburger a steer or a cow does.
A bull's purpose in life begins and ends within about 6-9 weeks. For the rest of the year, he's just a lazy hay burner, so he has to do his job well or he's down the road.
Yes judges and lawsuits............but somebody with a "brain" know it all. Who owns that land to begin with? We do.........Your heroes just want to tax it.
Nope. It's free use for humans, but not for cattle grazing. There is no entry fee you would have to pay to go hang out on that range. It's just like federal forests. Go hang out for as long as you want, but if you want to cut a cord of wood, there is a fee for woodcutting. If you go cowboy and want to run cattle, you pay a fee. They are all extraction fees, and mines pay them, ranchers pay them, loggers pay them, and even wildflower seed collectors pay them.
He was stealing your tax money. And continuets do so even now. The fees all go back to the Treasury, and help keep your taxes very low for your use of any of our public lands. He was stealing your money. And continues to do so even now.
What makes him so special? Nothing. Nothing at all. He's just another scab, like poachers and illegal trappers. There hasn't been any open range for over 100 years now.
Nope. It's free use for humans, but not for cattle grazing. There is no entry fee you would have to pay to go hang out on that range. It's just like federal forests. Go hang out for as long as you want, but if you want to cut a cord of wood, there is a fee for woodcutting. If you go cowboy and want to run cattle, you pay a fee. They are all extraction fees, and mines pay them, ranchers pay them, loggers pay them, and even wildflower seed collectors pay them.
He was stealing your tax money. And continueto do so even now. The fees all go back to the Treasury, and help keep your taxes very low for using our public lands. He was stealing your money. And continues to do so even now.
Isn't the point about, it should be state land, not Federal.
Guess how many cattle ranchers are left in that area?
From the looks of his cows, his bulls were nothing special. I didn't see any of his cattle that were purebreds. They all looked light for the amount of time they've been on the BLM range, which is not at it's best for the year.
Obviously, Bundy takes much greater care of is melons than his cattle. His melons have an excellent reputation and are, according to what I read, are all certified organic. The cows are just an excuse to get on a horse once in a while.
Range bulls don't cost any more than a couple of good cows. These days, all the best bulls never go to the range.
The prize bulls lead very pampered lives in barns and are never allowed to breed naturally because it is too dangerous to them. They are used as semen factories, and their semen is sold in artificial insemination straws that are used by humans to inseminate the cattle a dozen or so at a time in chutes, one after another.
The process is only done by ranchers who are serious about improving the quality of their herds. Artificial insemination comes with a guarantee a cow will conceive and 'settle' into pregnancy. No conception, no money changes hands. The semen is frozen in nitrogen, so it can be sent any time until a cow conceives.
It's all in the numbers; these days, the very best mother cows, who need not be purebred, are more valuable as surrogate mothers to implanted embryos than bulls, as they produce more consistently viable calves. Cattlemen will pay more for very feminine cows who have good mothering records than for bulls.
Cattle cloning done this way has been going on for decades now, in both meat and dairy cattle.
Range bulls left on their own, like Bundy's, often become become buddies and only breed a few heifers, taking turns, and ignore all the other cows. Half a herd that's fallow can drive a cattleman out of business in a year's time.
A fallow cow is a loss for the year. Deciding to keep a fallow cow is something that must be weighed very carefully. Not so with a bull. A good cow can live to be 10 or more, but a good bull usually doesn't live longer than 4-5 years at most. They aren't allowed to become too old, or too heavy or too lazy.
Responsible cattlemen who use range bulls manage their bulls closely during the breeding season, and bulls have to earn their keep. One who doesn't perform ends up in the same hamburger a steer or a cow does.
A bull's purpose in life begins and ends within about 6-9 weeks. For the rest of the year, he's just a lazy hay burner, so he has to do his job well or he's down the road.
What cattle registry did you look on???
The thing with cattle is the individual does not have to leave home to be considered a prize winner.
There are awards for what they produce.....off spring for generations down the line.
Yes he is. But he's not a violent criminal. Yet.
I seriously doubt Cliven will ever take a shot at anybody, but those hotspurs that are hanging out seem very willing to spill some blood at the drop of an ill-spoken word. Poor old Cliven could get slammed with an accessory charge if he permits that to happen.
Face it. This was the wrong fight. It is not going to ever become another Waco or Ruby Ridge. The only violence was a taser, and Cliven's adult son pushed the limit, just like any drunk who got taxed lat night outside a local bar.
That's as far as it went. Everything else was just gun waving macho display. Since Bundy has to get his melons in now, all those hang-arounds are going to be nothing but trouble for him and his family.
Nope. It's free use for humans, but not for cattle grazing. There is no entry fee you would have to pay to go hang out on that range. It's just like federal forests. Go hang out for as long as you want, but if you want to cut a cord of wood, there is a fee for woodcutting. If you go cowboy and want to run cattle, you pay a fee. They are all extraction fees, and mines pay them, ranchers pay them, loggers pay them, and even wildflower seed collectors pay them.
He was stealing your tax money. And continuets do so even now. The fees all go back to the Treasury, and help keep your taxes very low for your use of any of our public lands. He was stealing your money. And continues to do so even now.
What makes him so special? Nothing. Nothing at all. He's just another scab, like poachers and illegal trappers. There hasn't been any open range for over 100 years now.
Free use...........why do we have to pay to go to a federal park then?
No nothing makes him special other then he has stood up against the tyrants. It is OUR land not the federal goernments.
Yes pay fees on and on........all BS. Why are we made to pay all these fees is the question...............
Isn't the point about, it should be state land, not Federal.
Guess how many cattle ranchers are left in that area?
Bundy would have paid much higher fees if it was state land. If Nevada is anything like Idaho, they don't do annual permits there; a lease here is now for a 5 year minimum, with a 10 year lease more preferred, and all the money, which amounts to tens of thousands of dollars, must be paid up front in a competitive bid.
Our own state lease on my family's ranch, which was the last of the 20 year leases, cost us over $150,000 last year when it went up for auction again. 20 years ago, the same lease cost us less than 1/3 of that. Idaho needs all the money it can raise, and the state leases for any use went through the roof.
Given the fact that most of Nevada can't keep a cow alive, and given the fact that Americans eat more chicken than beef these days, I doubt there are very many ranchers left in comparison to earlier times in S.E. Nevada.
Most of the best range, especially if there is water on the place, was sold out long ago and is now paved over in Las Vegas suburbs.
The same happened in the Phoenix area, and the ranchers and farmers who sold out were damned glad to end up millionaires after long lives of hard toil in a chancy business. The same happened in Jackson Hole, Wyoming and Vale, Colorado, and all the suburbs that now surround Denver. Same in the Salt Lake Valley.
It was all once range land or farm land.
Once it's paved over, it's gone for good, and the best and most accessible land is always the first to get paved.
Free use...........why do we have to pay to go to a federal park then?
No nothing makes him special other then he has stood up against the tyrants. It is OUR land not the federal goernments.
Yes pay fees on and on........all BS. Why are we made to pay all these fees is the question...............
Because the vast majority wanted it that way, and are paying for some services? Because it helped manage the ranges better?
Who knows why people might want something other then anarchy.
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