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Registration in Oregon allows you to register without proving citizenship. You're okay with that?
http://www.eac.gov/assets/1/Document...1-1-13_ENG.pdf
Here are the state specific instructions for Oregon from the Federal Voter Registration form. The relevant block where one would or would not show ID and prove citizenship is block 6. For Oregon, you can write NONE and thus not prove either citizenship, identity, or that you are registering to the state where you live.
Yet fraud has never been an issue in any election in Oregon.
You do realize that these folks are already registered, right?!
Don't move the goalpost. The issue is photo ID, not citizenship. A 70+ year old black person from the deep South probably does not have the ability to retrieve their birth certificate.
Citizenship is proven with a social security card.
Yet they're not required to provide that to register either. Whenever the voter ID conversation comes up, I am obviously in favor of it. However, my issue is that it doesn't go far enough. We need to better protect our voting process and voter ID is only one piece of it. Why do you not value our process enough to offer these basic protections like almost every other country does?
Baloney - she lived well past the "I was born in the 20's in a one room house with no lights
and no birth certificate, blah blah blah.
Do you make excuses about everything she does not want to do.
96 years is ample time to get identification in this country.
She did not live the last 30 years in America where she could not get an I.D.
and you don't have to drive to get a picture I.D. either.
And if she can't produce one in person, register to vote and get an absentee ballot
mailed to her home. Or what, she can't mail a letter either.
She lived a much of her life in a rural area until recent year. But regardless, there is no need for a photo ID to vote. Unless you want to make all voting done in person only and each polling office must have a photo on file of you to compare it to your photo ID before you are allowed to vote. Which seems like a costly waste of time for something that isn't even a problem.
The 24th Amendment is very clear. Poll taxes are unconstitutional. End of discussion.
Any fee required to vote is a violation of the 24th Amendment. That includes paying for required documents to get a voter ID.
Amen. The nation is past the tactics of 1964 Mississippi, Thank God.
The push for "documentation" is perfectly in sync with the tactics of Concerned Citizen Councils of decades past. it is NOT occuring in GOP hotbeds. Geez, I wonder why
The documents required to get the FREE ID are not free.
In PA that is not the case, what's you argument now? Matter of fact the state of PA bent over backwards ro make this work and it's still not good enough.
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A photo ID is not required for voting. It is 100% unconstitutional.
In a 6-3 decision in 2008, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the photo ID requirement, finding it closely related to Indiana's legitimate state interest in preventing voter fraud, modernizing elections, and safeguarding voter confidence.
Yet they're not required to provide that to register either. Whenever the voter ID conversation comes up, I am obviously in favor of it. However, my issue is that it doesn't go far enough. We need to better protect our voting process and voter ID is only one piece of it. Why do you not value our process enough to offer these basic protections like almost every other country does?
Because voting is a right, not a privilege. There is no process to be protected. You cannot discriminate against a citizen in elections, period.
Gun ID is valid though! Student IDs are also banned, despite student IDs requiring residency information.
False again at least as far as Pa goes, the PA law allows for student ID's, long term care ID's and many others.
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