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Old 08-19-2014, 09:04 AM
 
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Obama, and of course by his direction, the highest ranks of his administration, turned their backs on the death in action of a two star general serving in Afghanistan by skipping his burial in Arlington Cemetery.

We are told that the President of the United States was on vacation.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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I disagree that POTUS or the VP should have attended.

It would have been a media circus and detracted from the solemn event.

The SecDef should have but we dont know what the wishes of the family were.

I understand that Nixon attended the last one but those were different times.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:35 AM
 
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I disagree that POTUS or the VP should have attended.

It would have been a media circus and detracted from the solemn event.

The SecDef should have but we dont know what the wishes of the family were.

I understand that Nixon attended the last one but those were different times.
If he cared more about his duty as CiC, and less about photo ops, he could have attended without telling the media. Or he could have told the media and set up something like a pool for reporters and photographers that would limit the number and preserve access to their work - such as they do (or did) for military operations.

I don't give him a pass for this, any more than for minimizing the import of a US ambassador's murder.

He could be the man he told us he was in 2008, but he is not, and that choice is one he made - no one else is responsible for his behavior, same as for the rest of us.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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I think he should have attended. It was Arlington for crying out loud. It wouldn't have taken up that much of his time. The Secretary of Defense was there.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:47 AM
 
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It was a private memorial service. So should the President have interjected himself in a private matter? Has the family complained about the President or VP not attending...The only ones complaining are the right wing media.

Maj. Gen. Harold J. Greene laid to rest at Arlington National Cemetery - Baltimore Sun
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:01 AM
 
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If he cared more about his duty as CiC, and less about photo ops, he could have attended without telling the media. Or he could have told the media and set up something like a pool for reporters and photographers that would limit the number and preserve access to their work - such as they do (or did) for military operations.

I don't give him a pass for this, any more than for minimizing the import of a US ambassador's murder.

He could be the man he told us he was in 2008, but he is not, and that choice is one he made - no one else is responsible for his behavior, same as for the rest of us.
I am not giving him a pass, i.e. all my thousands of previous posts.

He was just not needed at this funeral.

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Old 08-19-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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It was a private memorial service. So should the President have interjected himself in a private matter? Has the family complained about the President or VP not attending...The only ones complaining are the right wing media.

Maj. Gen. Harold J. Greene laid to rest at Arlington National Cemetery - Baltimore Sun
The general was given a military burial appropriate to his rank without the attendance of his Commander in Chief, the President of the United States.
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:45 PM
 
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If he cared more about his duty as CiC, and less about photo ops, he could have attended without telling the media. Or he could have told the media and set up something like a pool for reporters and photographers that would limit the number and preserve access to their work - such as they do (or did) for military operations.

I don't give him a pass for this, any more than for minimizing the import of a US ambassador's murder.

He could be the man he told us he was in 2008, but he is not, and that choice is one he made - no one else is responsible for his behavior, same as for the rest of us.
Well, if he did that, then this thread would still exist because he did it with no press attention. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Nice phony outrage flame job.
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Old 08-19-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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Hagel was there - Maj. Gen. Harold Greene receives full burial honors at Arlington - Stripes
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Old 08-19-2014, 08:57 PM
 
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Well, if he did that, then this thread would still exist because he did it with no press attention. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Granted, the IF's often don't work out well for a politician in either case. If it doesn't matter what one does - still get criticism either way - then shouldn't a person do what is right rather than what is easy? If a President is interested in doing his duty as CinC, whether there is a camera present or not should be of no importance. Doesn't matter to me if it was Bush, Reagan, Clinton, or Obama - attending military funerals is important for the CinC for a lot of reasons.

Nothing phony about it, but keep trying with the smears, you may hit a real one by accident.
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