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Old 04-30-2014, 05:46 PM
 
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Are there even any? Please post secular arguments that doesn't resort to "baby killing" because fetuses are not babies.
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Omaha/Lincoln, NE
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I know irreligious people who believe fetuses are babies. I don't agree, but they do exist
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Are there even any? Please post secular arguments that doesn't resort to "baby killing" because fetuses are not babies.
You take away the right to life of a human being without due process.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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"...that among these rights are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

So, you don't believe in a right to life?
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:09 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I know irreligious people who believe fetuses are babies. I don't agree, but they do exist
LOL!!! If they aren't "babies," what are they? They suck their thumbs like babies, and they kick and move in the womb. Why don't you think they are babies?
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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Are there even any? Please post secular arguments that doesn't resort to "baby killing" because fetuses are not babies.
Why can't a non-religious person have an understanding that human life begins, if not at conception, at least at some point prior to birth or the 3rd trimester or viability?
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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Nobody should have the right to take the life of another outside of self defense.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Some women who have an abortion suffer regret, sadness, and guilt for the rest of their lives.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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So we conclude: OP FAIL.
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Old 04-30-2014, 08:51 PM
 
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Are there even any? Please post secular arguments that doesn't resort to "baby killing" because fetuses are not babies.
Let's leave religion out of this. I'll just say that to end the life of a fetus is to prevent the birth of a human being.

We can all agree on that. No one knows, NO ONE knows when human life begins.

I understand where women are coming from. For too long men ruled their lives and used pregnancy almost as a way to control them.

But on the other hand, who is paying the price for this freedom and liberation? Tiny little humans who are being killed when they are at their most vulnerable and need their mother the most.

What an evil world I think sometimes.
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