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Old 06-01-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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Everything else he's done in over 40 years of public life provides a pretty good basis for an inference, wouldn't you say?

Same goes for the late Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond, in the opposite direction.
I'm not quite sure what you mean.

Strom was the FIRST Senator to have black person on his staff.

 
Old 06-01-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I'm not quite sure what you mean.

Strom was the FIRST Senator to have black person on his staff.
Who, Carrie Butler? Oh, that was a different staff...
 
Old 06-01-2014, 01:19 PM
 
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Conservatives like to trot out ol' Byrd due to the FACT that they welcomed segregationists to the GOP who fled the Democratic Party (consider Strom Thurmond). Remember, Reagan started out in politics opposing open housing and went on to object to the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and sanctions against the South African apartheid regime. Yet, conservatives believe he was Mr. Civil Rights.

Hugo Black was in the Klan, too, but Brown v. Board of Education sure was a unanimous decision, huh?
remember that reagan was a liberal democrat at the time.
 
Old 06-01-2014, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Jesse Helms. Strom Thurmond. Robert Byrd. Ronald Reagan. Hugo Black.

All these people are long dead and buried! What are we doing here on C-D now? Discussing the outcome of the zombie apocalypse?

Why are there 9 pages of discussion about dead guys?
 
Old 06-01-2014, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Jesse Helms. Strom Thurmond. Robert Byrd. Ronald Reagan. Hugo Black.

All these people are long dead and buried! What are we doing here on C-D now? Discussing the outcome of the zombie apocalypse?

Why are there 9 pages of discussion about dead guys?
Consider that in the 2012 election, Romney won 59% of the white vote, and Obama won 80% of the non-white vote. So the relationship between issues of race and partisan lines are relevant and important. And we need to go back in history to understand how we got to where we are today.
 
Old 06-01-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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Why wasn't Robert Byrd ever pushed out by the progressive and tolerant Democrat party for his membership in the KKK. Or did his views evolve?

In the 40s, Senator Byrd said

I will concede that in 2005 he said

An apology, but I'm not sure he is fit to serve office because of his past affiliations (sort of like CEOs of web browsers).

Maybe Democrats can explain this? Thanks!

What part of 70 years ago do you people have trouble understanding?
 
Old 06-01-2014, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Consider that in the 2012 election, Romney won 59% of the white vote, and Obama won 80% of the non-white vote. So the relationship between issues of race and partisan lines are relevant and important. And we need to go back in history to understand how we got to where we are today.
Unless a person has been living in a cave for past 14 years, all this blather is so well known it has been beaten to death already. Several times. It's a zombie topic that needs 2 in the head so it will finally lay down and die.
 
Old 06-02-2014, 01:36 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm not quite sure what you mean.

Strom was the FIRST Senator to have black person on his staff.
The first one from South Carolina
Pat Harrison from Mississippi hired a black person in 1937
 
Old 06-02-2014, 09:37 AM
 
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What part of 70 years ago do you people have trouble understanding?

What part of Bryd was NEVER denounced by the Democratic Party don't YOU understand?
 
Old 06-02-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Consider that in the 2012 election, Romney won 59% of the white vote, and Obama won 80% of the non-white vote. So the relationship between issues of race and partisan lines are relevant and important. And we need to go back in history to understand how we got to where we are today.
No, we don't have to go back to history to understand those statistics. They are current and most obviously display the fact that the white majority is evaporating in the 21st century.

According to James carville, a guy who pays attention to this stuff: "From 1948 to 1992, it went from 91 to 87 percent. From '92 to 2016, it's going to go from 87 to 70."
He said this in a 2012 interview.

The 2012 election showed the white majority went down 2 points from the 2008 election, from 74% to 72%. Just as statistics said they would. The white population will decline by another 2 points in 2106. Just as Carville predicted, the total white vote will represent 70% of the population. A majority, but a continually shrinking one. Split down the middle, that's only 35% of the voters on either side in 2016. Depending on the white vote only to win an election means a candidate would have to capture 70% of the white vote, and there is no way that will ever happen.

The 20th century is long gone. It holds few viable examples of what is going to happen forward into the future, especially when it comes to race vs. political affiliation.
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