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Old 05-09-2014, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
Your tolerance for a lying president and administrative lackys to play politics with lives sacrificed by HRC and Obama's political ambitions is disturbing.

You have no problem with Obama, Rice and HRC telling America the attack was a demonstration because of a video?????? Obama telling Lybian leaders it was not because of the video while he tells the rest of the world it was due to a video? Standing shoulder to shoulder with a crew of liars does not speak well for supporters.

Guess you have no problem being told, "we have to pass it to find out what is in it?

Aren't you embarassed by your naivete and gullibility?
Wow! Based on your vitriol, one might think that Obama sold weapons to our enemy!

 
Old 05-09-2014, 07:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
This is a GOP train wreck with the fund raising side show, not going to look good in the next election. The republican congressmen are fighting to get on the committee, please explain what would be different this time around and who he will call to testify. Definitely well on their way to shooting themselves in the foot once again.
Then you or the dems or the media or any other liberal shouldnt have an issue with it. Right? And if I recall, they didnt get to talk to everyone they wanted to before. They dont have all the documents they requested.

If you truly believe its a train wreck, then surely you would want complete cooperation. Prove there is nothing here and make the GOP look like fools.
 
Old 05-09-2014, 07:09 PM
 
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
Why was no one fired?
We need a congressional committee for that? There are much more important things to do with my tax dollars.
 
Old 05-09-2014, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Yes, you have been. The tip-off should have been when a Libyan official told the truth while Susan Rice floated video BS.
There was mixed intelligence, including statements by officials in the Libyan government. The analysts judgements were being shared both within the CIA and elsewhere in the Obama Administration. This has all be testified too multiple times. The following is from recent testimony at hearing in the House.

http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/...gStatement.pdf

The analysts’ first thorough, fully coordinated, assessment of what happened
in Benghazi was written on 12 September, less than 24 hours after the
attacks, and disseminated to senior level policymakers and to the
Congressional intelligence committees on 13 September.
It was coordinated
with analysts across the Intelligence Community. This means that the
assessment represented the views of the Intelligence Community, not just
CIA. It was approved for publication by a senior officer in CIA’s
Directorate of Intelligence and by a senior officer in the Office of the
Director of National Intelligence.

The piece made four key points:

. That the attack on the State Department facility in Benghazi was a
spontaneous event that evolved from a protest in Benghazi.
The title
of the 13 September piece was: “Extremists Capitalized on Benghazi
Protests.” The key sentence read: “We assess the attacks on Tuesday
against the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi began spontaneously ….”

. That the attackers were inspired by the breach of the U.S. Embassy in
Cairo on 11 September.
The first sentence of the piece said “…the
attacks began spontaneously following the protests at the U.S.
Embassy in Cairo….” There was no mention of the video defaming
the Prophet Muhammad as a motivation for the attacks in Benghazi.
In fact, there was no mention of the video at all.
.....
The judgment that the attack evolved spontaneously following the breach at
the U.S. Embassy in Cairo was also in the classified talking points that the
analysts prepared for Director Petraeus’ briefing to the SSCI on 13
September and to this Committee on 14 September.
Those talking points
said:

. “We assess the attacks on Tuesday in Benghazi began spontaneously
following the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a
direct assault against the Consulate.”

....
Let me make clear that we know that the analysts had an evidentiary basis to
make the judgment that there was a protest ongoing at the time of the attack.

All together, there were roughly a dozen or so reports indicating that this
was the case. Some of this information arrived at CIA Headquarters (HQS)
on 12 September and some arrived on 13 September. These included press
accounts -- including public statements by the Libyan Government and by
extremists.
And they included intelligence reports from CIA, the National
Security Agency, and the Department of Defense – including a report from
CIA’s Station in Tripoli that arrived at CIA HQS on 13 September.

The characterization that it was spontaneous, evolving from a protest linked to events in Cairo all came from the CIA. That characterization of the attack also made its way into the talking points that Susan Rice used for the Sunday shows.

The CIA did not specially mention the video, but they did link the attack to Cairo. The events in Cairo were linked to the video. Susan Rice's comments on the Sunday shows also referred to the video in relationship to the events in Cairo.

The CIA analysts got it wrong in the first week after the attack. Those are just the facts. There is no evidence so far that indicates anything else occurred.
 
Old 05-09-2014, 07:14 PM
 
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We need a congressional committee for that?
It would seem so as no one else is asking that question.
 
Old 05-09-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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Lindsey Graham wants to know why Susan Rice was picked as the spokeswoman. That's some vital information there. We demand to know!
I demand to know who typed up the talking points. Drag that administrative assistant before the committee and demand answers! What font did she use? Did she type in 10 pitch or 12? Were the talking points delivered to her in the lower level of a dark parking garage by a guy named Vito wearing a black trench coat?

I can't believe no one has answered these vital questions yet! Damn the Democrats for keeping this a secret! We have a right to know!
 
Old 05-09-2014, 07:37 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HeyJude514 View Post
I demand to know who typed up the talking points. Drag that administrative assistant before the committee and demand answers! What font did she use? Did she type in 10 pitch or 12? Were the talking points delivered to her in the lower level of a dark parking garage by a guy named Vito wearing a black trench coat?

I can't believe no one has answered these vital questions yet! Damn the Democrats for keeping this a secret! We have a right to know!
Sadly, it wasn't until I came to 'font' that I was certain of sarcasm.
 
Old 05-09-2014, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by GHOSTRIDER AZ View Post
The Paper trial is there and there are witness to attest the President Made Political decision , instead of the good for the country.
You must be wondering why the house investigating committee hasn't pressed charges, then.

I don't.

 
Old 05-09-2014, 07:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by nvxplorer View Post
Sadly, it wasn't until I came to 'font' that I was certain of sarcasm.
That says it all, doesn't it? You wouldn't be surprised to see someone like that subpoenaed to testify, would you? When you have demands to know how Susan Rice was chosen, you realize that's how ridiculous these Republicans are getting.
 
Old 05-09-2014, 07:59 PM
 
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What's the over/under on this post being COMPLETELY ignored? Anyone?
I'll go ahead and repost it (it's just that good).


Posted by Iamme

This is amazing. The Senate intelligence which is bipartisan released a report two years ago.

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf

This report shows the emails/notes from the CIA to the white house about the attacks in Cairo which were based on the video inspiring the attacks in Libya.

The report shows how the talking points changed and who changed those talking points.

CIA Strikes Back On Benghazi - The Daily Beast

There is the testimony of the former head of CIA who said the talking points came from the CIA intelligence. In fact the emalis/notes about the talking points shows this as well.

The testimony of the former head of the CIA explains why there was a conflict with the head of station assessment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/15/world/middleeast/anti-american-protests-over-film-enter-4th-day.html?pagewanted=all


Then finally there are the numerous violent attacks that were occurring all around in the middle east that were caused by the video.

So the basic facts are there was a video that existed. This video was causing riots in multiple nations nearly 20.

The CIA intelligence provides the talking points that the attack in Libya was spontaneous and inspired by the attack in Cairo and the attack in Cairo was inspired by the video.
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