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Old 05-14-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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Really now? Back this claim up with real numbers and statistics, please. Otherwise you're doing some myth-making of your own.
You're welcome to look it up if you like. Once the prison population is included, and I see no reason it shouldn't be, male sexual assault victims outnumber women.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:25 PM
 
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That's a fair point. So put yourself in the mindset of a rapist for a moment. Who are you more likely to target? That is, who are you more likely to be able convince to come up to your dorm room? The girl in the turtleneck, or the one in the see-through bra?
Eh, when I was in college people tended to dress more conservatively. Rape still happened.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:31 PM
 
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Rape happens at a low percentage where a woman is abducted at knife point from a dark alley. What happens in a higher pecentage is a woman, usually attractive is hanging out with a bunch of friends and drinking. They get drunk and either cannot respond or the guy is so drunk too that he doesn't know NO means NO!
Rape can happen to anyone male or female but it is usually the attractive girl who gets invited to the party in the first place.
Taking alcohol away from the situation would greatly reduce the accounts of rape.
Well I think there is a spectrum of situations that can possibly lead to rape.

I can say there are predatory people in a campus setting that have much greater access to potential victims that might not have the street smarts to always figure out what is going on. The predators know how to isolate the victims...offering a ride home, having the victim come to an isolated part of campus etc.

Not every campus rape situation involves alcohol, but I am sure many do.
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:20 AM
 
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Much of the rape that is reported could have been avoided just by using common sense precautions.

However, to the liberals, it is not "pc" to even mention ....."precautions "
People can be educated. Look how things have changed over the years and look how people behave towards women in Middle Eastern and other countries where a woman can't show her ankles.

People are different whether they be female or male. Some people are very cautious and some are a bit more adventurous. Some people are very naive and this is why predators can always find victims but people still need to be protected from these predators. All women shouldn't be put in a position where they have to always be looking out if they are in danger even though a lot of women are always doing this.

The law has changed so men have to be aware that they need consent or else they could be going through court charged with rape. Men should really think how they would like their daughters, sisters and mothers to be treated by society.

If more people are educated there doesn't need to be so many double standards on the way men and women are treated.

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Old 05-15-2014, 01:28 AM
 
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Let's try again. You're still not comprehending what's being said here. No one has suggested the idea that women "want" to be raped or "literally" invite it, yet you keep presenting an argument against it. We're talking about whether some women invite rape (figuratively), based on their dress and behavior. To that end, women who act in such a way as to draw sexual attention to themselves are also sending signals, deliberately or not, to men who may wish to prey on them. Thus, they are increasing their odds of being a victim, i.e. inviting rape. Got it?
That's a very sexist point of view. Whatever way a woman acts or dresses does not give anyone the right to violate her. If a man is half dressed and "perceived" to be acting suggestively does this mean they are sending out signals and inviting rape?

We are not living in the jungle anymore.
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Old 05-15-2014, 02:40 AM
 
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I read this thread late, but I just want to add in my two cents.
I am not a male, so I can't speak for male.
But I do believe that rape occured more with attractive women, or at least decent looking women.
In order for rape, the man have to be "turn on" right? I don't see how do men can get turn on if he doesn't find the women attractive, at least she have to look good in his eyes right?

So by that logic, I believe she have to be OK looking at least.
So let me ask the men out there, would you Honestly want to rape a girl if she was like one leg handicape, or was sitting on a wheelchair? Not likely right?

But then I don't understand how a few rape case where they can rape a 60 or 70 year olds woman. Scary and sick, but that is just minority only. Most majority rape cases still occured with attractive women.
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Old 05-15-2014, 04:09 AM
 
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I read this thread late, but I just want to add in my two cents.
I am not a male, so I can't speak for male.
But I do believe that rape occured more with attractive women, or at least decent looking women.
In order for rape, the man have to be "turn on" right? I don't see how do men can get turn on if he doesn't find the women attractive, at least she have to look good in his eyes right?

So by that logic, I believe she have to be OK looking at least.
So let me ask the men out there, would you Honestly want to rape a girl if she was like one leg handicape, or was sitting on a wheelchair? Not likely right?

But then I don't understand how a few rape case where they can rape a 60 or 70 year olds woman. Scary and sick, but that is just minority only. Most majority rape cases still occured with attractive women.
Rapes happen to all age of victims from babies to 89 year old women. Yes handicapped people get raped as well. Rape is not about sexual attraction. A lot of men that commit serial rapes have attractive partners that they can have sexual relations with but this doesn't fulfil their need to dominate and have control over a victim. Some of these girlfriends/wives when interviewed often tell of incidents where they are choked during sex by their partners.

Some rapists do have a certain type of victim because the victim is dehumanised and becomes a symbol. Ted Bundy for example picked similar looking women to rape and murder because they looked like an ex-girlfriend that he resented so instead of taking his anger out on her he picked women who looked similar to her to rape and murder over and over again.

There are other rapists though that are opportunity rapists and they will rape anyone who is in the vacinity. This was the case with the Midnight Stalker and also another rapist called Ronnie Shelton; they raped young women and very elderly women.
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Old 05-15-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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So let me ask the men out there, would you Honestly want to rape a girl if she was like one leg handicape, or was sitting on a wheelchair? Not likely right?
Are you really asking men at large whom they "honestly want to rape"?
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:05 PM
 
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I read this thread late, but I just want to add in my two cents.
I am not a male, so I can't speak for male.
But I do believe that rape occured more with attractive women, or at least decent looking women.
In order for rape, the man have to be "turn on" right? I don't see how do men can get turn on if he doesn't find the women attractive, at least she have to look good in his eyes right?

So by that logic, I believe she have to be OK looking at least.
So let me ask the men out there, would you Honestly want to rape a girl if she was like one leg handicape, or was sitting on a wheelchair? Not likely right?

But then I don't understand how a few rape case where they can rape a 60 or 70 year olds woman. Scary and sick, but that is just minority only. Most majority rape cases still occured with attractive women.
That is a weird question about asking who men would want to rape?

But women who are in vulnerable positions certainly are raped, that includes the elderly, or even women who are in a comatose state.

Do you have stats to back up your assertion that rape only occurs with attractive women...maybe that it is how it is reflected in the media.
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:15 PM
 
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That is a weird question about asking who men would want to rape?

But women who are in vulnerable positions certainly are raped, that includes the elderly, or even women who are in a comatose state.

Do you have stats to back up your assertion that rape only occurs with attractive women...maybe that it is how it is reflected in the media.

percentages don't support you
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