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Old 05-05-2014, 08:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Jag_Je View Post
Blah blah blah.... Several states have high taxes too.. Not everyone lives in the south or midwest
Their cost of living is about 30% higher than here as well..

Is this the new left wing talking point because this exact thread was posted here already a few weeks ago.

 
Old 05-05-2014, 08:01 PM
 
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Stossel needs to do his homework. The Australian min wage for 15 year olds is $6/hr.
 
Old 05-05-2014, 08:02 PM
 
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Ours? 23.8%

Yeah.
What will ours be if we export all of the illegals.
 
Old 05-05-2014, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Their cost of living is about 30% higher than here as well..

Is this the new left wing talking point because this exact thread was posted here already a few weeks ago.
It's the same banned poster who keeps starting the same thread. New name, same game.
 
Old 05-05-2014, 08:18 PM
 
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What will ours be if we export all of the illegals.
Sigh. Really? Does it matter? Lets check...

Of the 465 civilian occupations, only four are majority immigrant. These four occupations account for less than 1 percent of the total U.S. workforce. Moreover, native-born Americans comprise 47 percent of workers in these occupations

Sooo.... .5% approximately?

Thats odd, I figured it would be higher. might have to do more digging.
 
Old 05-05-2014, 08:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Jag_Je View Post
6202.0 - Labour Force, Australia, Mar 2014

Can republicans who are against raising minimum wage explain that why Australia has more than double our federal minimum wage yet lower unemployment rate and lower poverty rate than us!

Don't tell me "more expensive place to live" as if all Americans live in cheap states. Cost of living is high in New York metropolitan area, LA area, Sf area, DC, Boston and many other large metropolitan area too

Australia is just one example of a western country....
I am fine with raising the minimum wage to a reasonable amount. I sincerely wish the GOP would raise the minimum wage to around $9.00.

Do you think the 11 Million illegal immigrants in the country drive wages down for low skill jobs? As we start to make them legal - what would happen to their employment rate and the cost of the goods they help produce if let's say they get paid $15 an hour?
 
Old 05-05-2014, 08:28 PM
 
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I am fine with raising the minimum wage to a reasonable amount. I sincerely wish the GOP would raise the minimum wage to around $9.00.

Do you think the 11 Million illegal immigrants in the country drive wages down for low skill jobs? As we start to make them legal - what would happen to their employment rate and the cost of the goods they help produce if let's say they get paid $15 an hour?
Right this instant its $9.10 in Oregon. Somehow we haven't turned into a Madmax like state, completely destroyed by our insane minimum wage.
 
Old 05-05-2014, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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6202.0 - Labour Force, Australia, Mar 2014

Can republicans who are against raising minimum wage explain that why Australia has more than double our federal minimum wage yet lower unemployment rate and lower poverty rate than us!
Prove that the metrics used by the Australian Bureau of Statistics for employment/unemployment is identical to the metrics used by the BLS.

For your comparison to be valid, you must demonstrate that:

1] the US and Australia define "unemployed" in the exact same way, or make adjustments; and
2] that the US and Australia have the same definition for "Full-Time" for example the BLS defines Full-Time as 35 hours or more per week; and
3] that the US and Australian have the same definition for "Part-Time."

I mention that because the ignorant and uneducated generally make the false assumption that everyone measures statistics just like the US does.



Previous ISSUE Released at 11:30 AM (CANBERRA TIME) 02/03/2012

Underemployment Patterns and the Global Financial Crisis (GFC)


Overview

Aggregate hours During the GFC (in the period September 2008 to September 2009) the average number of hours worked per person per month fell from 142.1 to 138.8. This fall was due to a decrease in the aggregate full-time hours of Australian workers of 38.8 million hours. However, the number of part-time hours worked by Australians actually increased by 9.9 million hours, supporting the notion that generally people had their hours reduced.

Random Analytics: PeakJobs – Australian Full-time vs. Part-time Employment (to Oct 2013)



Quote:
This is the new inclusion and my favourite chart. Since the collapse of Lehman Brothers the Australian economy has created two part-time jobs for every new full-time job created. At the bottom of the crisis Australia shed 189,300 jobs at the same time creating 198,800 part-time employees.
Random Analytics: PeakJobs

Quote:
Australia: Broadmeadows workers speak on car industry crisis

By our reporters
15 January 2014


Josh’s father Kerry added that he had been forced to move between Australia to New Zealand in search of work: “This is the third time I’ve shifted,” he explained. “I’ve had to move back and forward every five years. I started out doing an apprenticeship here in the clothing industry and after I finished my time, the jobs were all gone. It’s getting worse.”

Following announcements by Ford and General Motors Holden that they will soon shut down production in Australia, Toyota will be the last remaining car producer in the country after 2016. However, company executives are demanding sweeping cuts to wages and workplace protections as a condition for maintaining production at its assembly plant in Melbourne’s western suburb of Altona.

PLEASE NOTE SOURCE:

Australia: Broadmeadows workers speak on car industry crisis - World Socialist Web Site


Yes, the World Socialist Web Site.

Quote:
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Underemployed part-time workers want 14 hours more work[/SIZE]
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In September 2011, there were 11.6 million people employed in Australia. Of these people, 786,800 wanted to work more hours and were available, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS). The average number of extra hours preferred per week was 14.1 hours.
[SIZE=2]26 February 2014

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[SIZE=4]
Underemployed Australians waiting longer for more work

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The median duration of insufficient work of Australia's underemployed part-time workers increased to 30 weeks in 2013, from 26 weeks in 2012, according to an Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) report released today.

ABS Director of Labour Force and Supplementary Surveys, Stephen Collett said "The number of underemployed part-time workers wanting and available for more hours has increased to 2010 and 2011 levels. For younger workers (aged 15-19), the median duration of insufficient work increased to 26 weeks in 2013, up from 21 weeks in 2012. For those aged 35-44 it increased to 34 weeks in 2013, up from 30 weeks in 2012. Older workers are continuing to experience longer periods of underemployment, 40 weeks for those aged 45-54, and 52 weeks for those aged 55 and over."
Median weekly total cash earnings for all part-time employees were $472.00. Although 10% of all part-time employees received weekly total cash earnings of $108.00 or less, 10% received $1,068.00 or more.

[emphasis mine for The Stupid who don't understand the difference between Mean (Average) and Median]
The thrill of getting paid $16 AUS and only working 26 hours a week....for the rest of your life.

...it's better than Disneyland...


Mircea
 
Old 05-05-2014, 08:48 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
Prove that the metrics used by the Australian Bureau of Statistics for employment/unemployment is identical to the metrics used by the BLS.

For your comparison to be valid, you must demonstrate that:

1] the US and Australia define "unemployed" in the exact same way, or make adjustments; and
2] that the US and Australia have the same definition for "Full-Time" for example the BLS defines Full-Time as 35 hours or more per week; and
3] that the US and Australian have the same definition for "Part-Time."

I mention that because the ignorant and uneducated generally make the false assumption that everyone measures statistics just like the US does.



Previous ISSUE Released at 11:30 AM (CANBERRA TIME) 02/03/2012

Underemployment Patterns and the Global Financial Crisis (GFC)


Overview

Aggregate hours During the GFC (in the period September 2008 to September 2009) the average number of hours worked per person per month fell from 142.1 to 138.8. This fall was due to a decrease in the aggregate full-time hours of Australian workers of 38.8 million hours. However, the number of part-time hours worked by Australians actually increased by 9.9 million hours, supporting the notion that generally people had their hours reduced.

Random Analytics: PeakJobs – Australian Full-time vs. Part-time Employment (to Oct 2013)





Random Analytics: PeakJobs




PLEASE NOTE SOURCE:

Australia: Broadmeadows workers speak on car industry crisis - World Socialist Web Site


Yes, the World Socialist Web Site.



[SIZE=2]26 February 2014

[/SIZE]

Median weekly total cash earnings for all part-time employees were $472.00. Although 10% of all part-time employees received weekly total cash earnings of $108.00 or less, 10% received $1,068.00 or more.

[emphasis mine for The Stupid who don't understand the difference between Mean (Average) and Median]
The thrill of getting paid $16 AUS and only working 26 hours a week....for the rest of your life.

...it's better than Disneyland...


Mircea
Alternatively to him writing a thesis about it to "prove" it to you, people with common sense could simply compare the wages, and the relative cost of living, and go "hmmmm"
 
Old 05-05-2014, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
Prove that the metrics used by the Australian Bureau of Statistics for employment/unemployment is identical to the metrics used by the BLS.

For your comparison to be valid, you must demonstrate that:

1] the US and Australia define "unemployed" in the exact same way, or make adjustments; and
2] that the US and Australia have the same definition for "Full-Time" for example the BLS defines Full-Time as 35 hours or more per week; and
3] that the US and Australian have the same definition for "Part-Time."

I mention that because the ignorant and uneducated generally make the false assumption that everyone measures statistics just like the US does.



Previous ISSUE Released at 11:30 AM (CANBERRA TIME) 02/03/2012

Underemployment Patterns and the Global Financial Crisis (GFC)


Overview

Aggregate hours During the GFC (in the period September 2008 to September 2009) the average number of hours worked per person per month fell from 142.1 to 138.8. This fall was due to a decrease in the aggregate full-time hours of Australian workers of 38.8 million hours. However, the number of part-time hours worked by Australians actually increased by 9.9 million hours, supporting the notion that generally people had their hours reduced.

Random Analytics: PeakJobs – Australian Full-time vs. Part-time Employment (to Oct 2013)





Random Analytics: PeakJobs




PLEASE NOTE SOURCE:

Australia: Broadmeadows workers speak on car industry crisis - World Socialist Web Site


Yes, the World Socialist Web Site.



[SIZE=2]26 February 2014

[/SIZE]

Median weekly total cash earnings for all part-time employees were $472.00. Although 10% of all part-time employees received weekly total cash earnings of $108.00 or less, 10% received $1,068.00 or more.

[emphasis mine for The Stupid who don't understand the difference between Mean (Average) and Median]
The thrill of getting paid $16 AUS and only working 26 hours a week....for the rest of your life.

...it's better than Disneyland...


Mircea
Who knew Obama had so much global influence?

Thank goodness only 2 .5 more years before a Republican can right this global situation, chop-chop.
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