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More like an attempt to de-escalate the confrontation the intruder has forced upon me the homeowner. The home owner didn't create the confrontation the intruder did.
You just pointed out a scenario where you could ascertain a thief's intent w/o forcing a confrontation, where the thief would have the opportunity to leave w/o putting you or your family in danger, where taking a life over property doesn't have to be the outcome...
They have merely shown ways I can give the criminal more opportunities to do things, and trust that he's a nice enough guy to not do them.
I have pointed out to you why that is unacceptable. You have repeatedly ignored this and acted as though the words hadn't been said.
You're clearly not interested in debate or any kind of truth or reality, but merely want to duck, dodge, and evade. Go peddle your papers.
Nor should you be compelled to give an intruder any opportunities. They could have simply not entered your home and avoided creating the situation. They elect to risk their lives instead. They deserve what follows.
You just pointed out a scenario where you could ascertain a thief's intent w/o forcing a confrontation, where the thief would have the opportunity to leave w/o putting you or your family in danger, where taking a life over property doesn't have to be the outcome...
Why are you backing away from that now?
You may not have time.
And there's a difference between thieves and burglars, as I've previously mentioned.
You just pointed out a scenario where you could ascertain a thief's intent w/o forcing a confrontation, where the thief would have the opportunity to leave w/o putting you or your family in danger, where taking a life over property doesn't have to be the outcome...
Why are you backing away from that now?
No I did not. I honestly don't care what his intent is. I am not forcing a confrontation, I am responding to the confrontation that was forced upon me. There is a big difference.
A man takes a swing at me. I can step back and try to reason with him to de-escalate what he is forcing upon me. Or I can punch him in the throat and de-escalate that way.
In this case I prefer not to have a clean up detail or holes in my walls from the intruder. I would rather not deal with the justice system. The intruders life, well being or mental state is not even a factor in my decision making.
Why do you insist that it is the homeowner forcing a confrontation? It is the thief, he has violated another persons home. Few things can force confrontation more than that.
If I kick your door in while your family is eating dinner did you force the confrontation that follows or did I?
If someone breaks into your house, do they deserve death for it? Even if they're not even armed? There's been several stories in the news about teenagers who broke into old men's homes and were slain unnecessarily after the threat was neutralized and the general consensus was that the men were heroes for protecting their stuff.
Now I'm sure being burgled is traumatic, but is it really a greater evil than killing an intruder? Especially if there was no reason to do so aside from revenge? If so why not treat it the same as murder if apparently it's equally serious and make it a capital crime you can be executed for?
Its sad that someone so young may die , but the reality is those same young people made the choice to break in. Since they were young they were probably in good physical health and could easily take down some senior and middle age man. Never mind a women.
Its is more than " Protecting your stuff" . Its about making your family safe from a Home Invasion and or a Robbery.
Advocating that these crimes are OK, is nonsense and that is exactly what you implying.
Home invasion are serious maters and the home owner does know the intent of the criminals. There for shot to kill protecting your home. There is no such thing as a warning shot. Second Count and the Police is on average 8-9 minutes away.
Both no1brownsfan and he both showed scenarios where you could resolve the doubt you're talking about.
2 am you hear things being broken in another room. You for the safety of your loved ones must assume the worst. The mistake you make is the mistake they may very well pay for.
I assume 1 thing and only 1 thing if someone breaks into my home. I and my family are in danger. No maybe to it. If the intruder who only meant to steal my 42 inch TV dies then that is his own fault.
The only doubt you should have is if the bullets from an intruders gun will punch through the walls where your family is hiding.
However, if I do not know if someone is armed, their lives are a distant second to those of my loved ones.
And you never know if the intruder is armed. He's already committed the major crime of violating your house. It would be foolish to assume he's otherwise a nice guy.
As I said before, if I don't see his back disappearing rapidly in the distance outside my house, or see him lying facedown on the floor with his empty hands clasped behind his head and saying "I give up', I will immediately do what I have to, to remove the possible threat he presents to my family.
I would be derelict in my duty to my family if I did anything else.
As for my "duty" to the criminal: If he's forcing me to choose between him and my family, I have no duty to him at all.
And you never know if someone is armed. He's already committed the major crime of violating your house. It would be foolish to assume he's otherwise a nice guy.
As I said before, if I don't see his back disappearing rapidly in the distance outside my house, or see him lying facedown on the floor with his empty hands clasped behind his head and saying "I give up', I will immediately do what I have to, to remove the possible threat he presents to my family.
I would be derelict in my duty to my family if I did anything else.
As for my "duty" to the criminal: If he's forcing me to choose between him and my family, I have no duty to him at all.
No truer words...
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